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krisles--
oh--thanks...but I didn't think your comment sounded snotty at all!
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:27 PM
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Quirky
I realized that I might have sounded a little snotty there...and I didn't mean to...I think your headlines are very entertaining and creative...really! I was trying to be clever
...see, can't do it! You are able to pull off the occasional tricky headline...but still make the post worthwhile enough that the reader doesn't feel duped....that's what I meant by the realllllllly.
posted by
Krisles
on August 11, 2005 at 11:13 PM
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krisles--
thanks for your input. You know, headline writing is a bit of an art form...not exactly rocket science, but still takes some creativity. That said, if your heart isn't into it, then it's pretty hard to come up with something that entices others.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:07 PM
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Quirky
No, you write clever headlines....sometimes realllllly clever headlines...but, the post is always worth it, and that is the test. Now, my problem.....my headlines are soooo boring...I just can't write headlines and I know it. I just get so putoff with the whole headline thing. It irritates me, frankly. I don't like to try to be sold..never have. I know sales and marketing, too...and I appreciate a great marketing campaign...notice I said a great one. But, I don't need it and don't really ever want it. Skip the salad...give me the meat and potatoes. Just tell me what the post is about and then write a great post. But, like I said, I'm boring!
posted by
Krisles
on August 11, 2005 at 11:01 PM
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shadow--WHAT??
I don't get it....
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:43 PM
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Quirky,
If you noticed I flunked spelling myself, to interested in being a grave robber. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 10:27 PM
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Shadow--
I flunked geography because I was concentrating too much on English...lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:24 PM
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Quirky,
Tennessee is Central Time, Florida was Eastern Time. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 10:19 PM
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shadow--
oh, you're only two hours diff, I thought it was three.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:12 PM
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Quirky,
Actually, its 12:30, whoops looked at clock wrong, 12:00. No I don't sleep much and anyway I don't have anywhere in particular to be tommorrow, huh today so I can laze around. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 10:08 PM
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Shadow--
ROFL...are you a vampire?? You seem to never sleep...isn't it like, 1 a.m there?
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:59 PM
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Quirky,
Bark. Bark. Pant. Pant. Whine. Whine. Well heck you couldn't expect a cat to be so loyal. Back to my corner now. LOL Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 9:52 PM
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Shadow--
just like my faithful shadow, she never leaves me, even when the sun goes down on quirky town.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:44 PM
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Quirky,
I do promise I try to read every word...... I just slipped up this one time, honest, just this one time!!!!! Oh the shame!!!! Its time to go hide in my little corner now. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 9:39 PM
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ginnie--
not yet...lol---why, just wait until tomorrow then!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:32 PM
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shadow--
oh yes, you must read every word of my post...ha...that would be a first for ANY blogger. Okay, I'm ready for the hail of rotten tomatoes for that comment.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:32 PM
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No, no Quirky!
I've never been 'tricked' by you! Not yet anyway!
posted by
ginnieb
on August 11, 2005 at 8:53 PM
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isa--
sadly, I can say that I know what you mean.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 8:43 PM
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Mama.Dragonly--thanks...
I am very pleased to hear that you feel this way about what I serve in the Quirky Cafe.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 8:43 PM
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Quirky,
Oh. 
Sorry, must read stuff more closely. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 8:42 PM
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shadow--
don't chastise me for that...i didn't say it, I only repeated what was said to me.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 8:40 PM
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Quirky,
If the posts are as interesting as the headline then I'm going to return and read the writer again. If they are not, then I won't unless another blogger makes reference to the writer in another headline or post and I think there's going to be a major war brewing and I'll want to find out who 
wins. As for describing yourself as a click whore, shame on you. You would have followers even with simple headlines because you know how to interact with the reader. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 11, 2005 at 5:05 PM
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MsQ..When women call other women whores, they are usually jealous. I mean, that woman is getting something the other woman ain't. And when men call women 'whore', it is the same thing, but it is because somebody else is getting what he ain't! When I click on a headline, if the content doesn't engage me from the beginning, I just click off...like any other medium. And anymore, I don't even bother to click the first time on some bloggers here for that same reason......I've been duped into wasting my time one too many times by them. Perhaps they think they're just being clever? As far as your headlines are concerned, I am happy to report I've never felt that way about your posts.
~Mama.Dragonfly487
posted by
Mama.Dragonfly
on August 11, 2005 at 1:47 PM
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it is not about what i really expect inside of a post...
what pisses me off is to be attracted by an alluring headline and the post i find is really cheap and "empty"...lol
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 11, 2005 at 1:23 PM
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Lensman--
ROFL!! You shall herewith be crowned King Pot Stirrer of Blogit.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:55 AM
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avant--
Yes I have a Marketing Degree myself...so I am familiar with the bait-and-switch tactic--glad you don't feel that I do it.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:55 AM
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Quirky
Oops...did I just open a can of worms? How typical of me
posted by
Lensman
on August 11, 2005 at 11:29 AM
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i took marketing in college
and there's a little trick called 'bait and switch'. it's when you give something the appearance of what you do not intend to show at all. i don't get that with your posts, but i have noticed it in other places. i decided not to go into sales due to the deceitful tactics that are often used.
posted by
avant-garde
on August 11, 2005 at 11:29 AM
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Lensman--
Oh...so what you are saying is it's only dumb bloggers who are tricked to click?
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:22 AM
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Quirk
You can't fool me. There's the answer to your question
posted by
Lensman
on August 11, 2005 at 11:14 AM
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Ariala--
Doesn't it make you feel good to agree with me? On second thought don't answer that...lol...
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:06 AM
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Isa--
It does happen to me, too--whether they really meant to or not...I guess it's one of those, "take ten people and they'll have ten different expectations."
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:04 AM
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Yep, I agree...
posted by
Ariala
on August 11, 2005 at 11:03 AM
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Ariala--
I don't mind people expecting to read about one thing and getting something else, as long as they don't feel disapointed that their expectations weren't met. But...that said...we can't please everyone so why die trying?
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:02 AM
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Sandi--
thanks for your input!
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 11:01 AM
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Quirky...
I don't feel like that with you...i don't feel like you are manipulating ppl...unfortunately some other bloggers do...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 11, 2005 at 10:55 AM
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As I stated yesterday, it's more about expectations...I expected to read a
story about a real car robbery, not a dream. But having said that, I'm rarely disappointed at your posts, but a time or two I thought I was getting one thing, but got something else. That happens often when I click on people's posts. What's the big deal? It's not...I'm all for creative headlines.
posted by
Ariala
on August 11, 2005 at 10:48 AM
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Your popularity ranking for this blog speaks for itself! Whatever you're doing... keep doing it! Headlines and all!
Sandi
posted by
Sandra_Harris
on August 11, 2005 at 10:48 AM
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MysticG--
I'm always amazed at some of the "boring, dry, uninspiring, completely lacking in any creativity" headlines I see from time to time...I guess their regulars will click regardless as you say...but it's certainly not the way to entire anyone new to check you out.
Oh and saying "what ever you throw up" in relation to my posts...not a good image...lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:38 AM
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quirky-girl
absolutely not, but i'm not a good judge of that...i tell Ari the same thing. People I read regualry I barely glance at their headline cause i'm going to visit them anyway. People I don't read as often, a headline will send me there...you, i just read, what ever you throw up there. Don't let people mess with your head, just write...clicks mean very little in the end, and blog postion goes up and down. readers are fickle and busy and have all kinds of reasons for picking someone to read. my reason just happens to be cause i like the person and what they are offering...silly reason for reading huh?
posted by
MysticGmekeepr
on August 11, 2005 at 10:34 AM
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mmm-w,
I don't really take it too seriously (I don't think so anyway--but what do I know?
)...maybe I should put a winky face in there to lighten it up?
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:28 AM
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blackcat--
no--I wannna know about the wart and the pole!!!! I'll not sleep until I do...lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:26 AM
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whacky--
well, as long as you don't get to the bottom of the box and find an old dead bug or something!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:25 AM
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i don't think that you are in anyway this type of thing, but again i have to agree with the whole
'taking things too seriously'....
posted by
mmm-w
on August 11, 2005 at 10:22 AM
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quirks
I know it's not the kind of headline you meant, but it is the only one I can recall not having anything to do with the post below it. The others usually all relate somehow.
Joe Love didn't want to explain... and that's okay by me.
posted by
-blackcat
on August 11, 2005 at 10:18 AM
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NO way are you tricking us
what you do is more like the old O'Henry last minute twist. I always like that.```````Sort of like getting a prize in your cereal.
posted by
Whacky
on August 11, 2005 at 10:17 AM
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meant to say "see" his reply...
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:15 AM
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kitty cat--
did you Joe's reply to us?? He said he "So didn't want to explain" the headline--but I'm still curious. It didn't seem to relate to the post but this is not the type of headline I'm really talking about.
P.S. I agree about the "taking it too serious" part.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:13 AM
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Isa--
Me too...and I hate that feeling, which is why I don't want to be doing it to others.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:11 AM
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Dave--
thanks for answering the question, interesting that it fit for two blogs. A long time ago I pulled the Fake Goodbye and I was so embarrassed for myself afterwards that I could barely hold my head up. I agree that it can really toy with emotions.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 10:10 AM
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quirks...
In most cases, when I see a creative headline, I can't wait to read the post to see how it relates. It's entertaining for me. I think some take it way too seriously. That's just my opinion.
I can only name one headline in which I could not figure out the relation to the post and that was the recent one by Joe Love. I commented on it. I didn't feel tricked at all, it just confused me. I still love Joe Love.
So, to answer your question.... no, I don't think you or anyone else is a "click whore." I think it's a stupid term used by uptight and possibly envious individuals.
posted by
-blackcat
on August 11, 2005 at 10:07 AM
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I don't feel tricked by this post you mentioned...
but i sometimes felt badly tricked by some other bloggers
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 11, 2005 at 10:01 AM
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Most of this, I've copied from a comment I left earlier for MayB as it seemed directly relevant...
I'd say that misleading headlines fall into 2 categories:
- They pull you in and disappoint you - bad - I'm less likely to go back
- They pull you in, don't give you what you were expecting, but give you something better than you were expecting - good - I'm very likely to go back. In the second category, you can often spot the irony if you already know the writer.
The one that bugs me most is:' I'm leaving'. I think it hurts the emotions of genuine fans of the writer. It's a quick win, but a long-term loss. Sometimes people are genuinely leaving and you really do want to say farewell. This cry-wolf lie is painful to all.
I can't say as I've read a Category 1 from you yet. So I come back.
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on August 11, 2005 at 10:01 AM
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ginnie--
Are mine in that category then? Am I just blind to it?? Seriously, I'm not asking this to get ego-stroked, I'm looking for honest answers.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:55 AM
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Ya Quirky....
...when I'm reading one of 'those' blogs I refer to the title to make sure it was a 'real' title...one referring to the content. If it's not then I feel tricked and it bugs me!
posted by
ginnieb
on August 11, 2005 at 9:52 AM
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Jemmie--
thanks, I think you are da bomb.
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:50 AM
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PS . . .
Go read OB's Musings.
posted by
Jemmie211
on August 11, 2005 at 9:47 AM
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You're no click whore!
You do write clever headlines! And if people would take the time to get to know your style, they'd know that you're headlines are a reflection of your creativity. We all want clicks, and to get those clicks we need to write scintillating headlines. You just keep doing what you do!
posted by
Jemmie211
on August 11, 2005 at 9:45 AM
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Phillys--
well, clever is good, but is the line between clever and trick just too thin, that inevitably some will feel deceived??
posted by
Julia.
on August 11, 2005 at 9:34 AM
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You are just very very clever!
posted by
PhillysTales
on August 11, 2005 at 9:23 AM
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