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I admire her spunk for waving the knife and yelling. So does the law cover projectiles that just 'accidentally' fly out the kitchen window? She could say she was so frightened that it just 'slipped' right out of her hands...in their general direction, of course. OR, she could say she was 'frightened right out of her wits', ....and plead temporary insanity! (Hey, they do that sort of thing in the movies ALL the time!)

posted by Darson on January 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM | link to this | reply

No self defense in some places

A lot of laws are geared for after the crime. In example, you can’t dial 911 if you only suspect a crime that’s about to occur. It’s the same with the self defense. If the intruders don’t act, then the person that’s violated commits the threat or murder. Prisons have the persons that defended themselves inside. I met an abused housewife on a sociology class field trip. She murdered her husband in self defense. KBC-A, Bill’s RJLst 

posted by BC-A on January 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos
We all know the law is an ass, it's the same in Canada, I mean we all know "A lawyer must first get on, then get honor and then get honest" (Anon) and that's how the law got to be an ass.

posted by WileyJohn on January 12, 2010 at 12:37 PM | link to this | reply

No different in Australia...unless you invite them to sit down
to a glass of beer while you collect all your valuables for them and then thank them politely as they leave....you end up in jail

posted by Kabu on January 12, 2010 at 8:07 AM | link to this | reply

I kinda think those Brit officials have taken manners and polite

behavior toward visitors just a smidge too far. Had I been the one threatened by a couple punks, they'd have been lucky if all I did was wave a knife. People that age are like chickens on a road, you never know which way they'll run or what they'll do, and neither do they.

Great job on the perp's statement! I could hear and see the skinny brat in his droopy pants and sloppy jacket standing there in all his arrogance. Thanks for this one, Naut!  

posted by Pat_B on January 11, 2010 at 7:35 AM | link to this | reply

It's about the same in Denmark too; you get in hot water if you take the law into your hands. My old mum was never one to let anybody push her around; she used to go round with an outsize hat-pin. Of course whether she ever used it is another matter ..........

posted by elinjo on January 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM | link to this | reply

Naut, I can't decide whether you made up the last comment or not...!  Either way, the little blighters had no business even entering her garden.  Something similar happened to me last year sometime, when home alone -  two boys about thirteen tried to climb over my gate, not even stopping when I looked right at them.  I got up and moved towards my window, and they left, but were very rude to me.  Perhaps they were lucky my nearest "weapon" was my laptop, and I wasn't going to wave that at them..!

posted by mneme on January 11, 2010 at 1:46 AM | link to this | reply

Incredible.
Naut is this story true? I would've attacked the fuckers, if they'd been in my garden, with a baseball bat. Screw the law, protecting what's your own is a fundamental right, isn't it?

posted by Hackthorne19 on January 11, 2010 at 12:59 AM | link to this | reply

Ah yes...the old, wait until something happens and then call us --- it blows my mind - and I do hope laws change after all to protect rights of victims.  and as far as the what you purport the teens said - yes well...they need a bit of trauma to see what it feels like to be a victim.   Elyse

posted by elysianfields on January 10, 2010 at 7:28 PM | link to this | reply

I am stunned! This is way over the edge for me! Shelly

posted by sam444 on January 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM | link to this | reply

I'm one of the first to point out when it sucks to be here in the US, but..
Naut,
      Here in the states that passed laws making it illegal to have firearms, there is a saying, "I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried off, by six." I figure that a jury gives much more credence to the version of what happened, to the surviving participant in a deadly confrontation, than they will give to the decedent's story. Everybody know how those accused decedents lie!
           Guy

posted by northsage_45 on January 10, 2010 at 5:40 PM | link to this | reply

That is unbelievable!  To think that there you can not wave a knife in your own kitchen and here in the US you can carry a gun in your pocket...  Oh Naut and I loved that transliteration of the accent of the teenager   loll  That was precious loll  xoxoxo

posted by Sinome on January 10, 2010 at 2:54 PM | link to this | reply

Pretty sad when you can't protect yourself in your home.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on January 10, 2010 at 2:44 PM | link to this | reply

Past time for sensible laws is right! I wonder how t-r-a-u-m-a-t-i-z-ed the bloke would be if he'd met something like Bud (my oldest pit-bull) when sneaking into the yard? Or would that be considered disproportional force?

posted by adnohr on January 10, 2010 at 2:27 PM | link to this | reply

As opposed to Texas law, which gives you the right to shoot to kill any intruder who comes over your threshold.  Talk about taking a criminal's rights a bit too far.....Mal

posted by gapcohen on January 10, 2010 at 1:35 PM | link to this | reply

LOL, that was cute Nautikos, these days anything is possible I guess.

posted by shobana on January 10, 2010 at 1:32 PM | link to this | reply