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Re: elinjo. Justi
Thanks for commenting Justi. 30 million is a mind-boggling statistic. Although I do not want to get involved in a discussion about this, I should like to say that people in the underprivileged part of the world have a very clear picture of the material wealth we enjoy in countries such as the U.S. and the European Union; the majority of the world has access to television. Naturally they want a share in our cake. Those who manage to slip over the borders earn what they can, how they can and send money back to their families. I.M.O. this is praiseworthy.
You choose to give priority to fellow Christians. I could quote the story of the Good Samaritan in this context; however I can see your point of view; nobody can encompass the entire world.
The present situation in Copenhagen is about a group of Iraqi refugees who applied for asylum and after many years of living in limbo failed to achieve it. Their fear drove them to seek sanctuary in a church. The police decided to evict them and the action turned violent. This is only the second time in Danish history that the police have taken such action, at least in a church.
posted by
elinjo
on August 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM
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elinjo
We have a real problem with being loose on them here. It is overwhelming. We have 30,000,000 living here, getting free medical through emergency treatment. They are draining our country. Working and sending most of their earnings back to country of origin. We don't have jobs for those who have always lived here. We have diseases and it is not the job of the church. Church is to care for the brothers and sisters who are the Christians, etc., first before others. Those who come in illegally are breaking the law and the church is not supposed to help in that. That is simply my opinion.
posted by
Justi
on August 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM
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I see that the United States is not the only one facing immigration issues. Such a sad situation.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on August 14, 2009 at 8:55 PM
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Elinjo
I'm a believer in law an order, immigration is not any business of any church. I think churches ought to lose their 'tax exempt' status when they choose to circumvent immigration laws and rules. The police did their job.
posted by
WileyJohn
on August 14, 2009 at 8:28 PM
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so sad peopleare frightened everywhere and not coping very well
a few radicals on allsides have taken control and no body knows what is right anymore or how to act. More huma suffering is of course the result. Don't be too hard on your country, People are grappling with how to resolve these issues everywhere. Some not so good others even worse because they hush their problems up.
posted by
Kabu
on August 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM
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I think I'm with the refugees and the Church, but it's a tricky situation and now its has escalated with the hunger strike, difficult to resolve.
posted by
Rockingrector_retd
on August 14, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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Clergymen protest in Denmark.
I have just heard on the news that 275 clergymen and theologians have voiced their protest about the police action. They emphasize that churches should not be violated in this way. Furthermore they have asked the Danish people to attend church on Sunday in support of the Iraqi refugees. They have decided to preach sermons on Jesus' banishment of money-lenders from the Temple.
posted by
elinjo
on August 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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Re: lustorlove + refugees.
These particular refugees left Iraq because life was totally unbearable. They applied for residence in Denmark and the process has gone on for a very long time. Some of these refugees are children who were either born in Denmark or cannot even remember Iraq. The authorities finally got their act together and decided to refuse them residence. Due to the far from safe situation in present day Iraq, they do not want to go back. We can ask ourselves if we would want to go back there, if we happened to be in their shoes. I certainly would not. It could very well be that 'they will be escorted back to their countries' and it could well be that once they get there they will be in seriously hot water.
posted by
elinjo
on August 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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Makes me sad!
posted by
hardilaziz
on August 14, 2009 at 9:12 AM
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I have mixed emotions about this one, I think its cruel to keep them in camps, but if they don't have citizenship, they should be escorted back to their country. The US is too lenient on aliens here.
posted by
Lanetay
on August 14, 2009 at 8:12 AM
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Elinjo
Wow – pretty strong stance on immigration (or lack there of…).
posted by
Troosha
on August 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM
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Re: Snowview
Dear Nita thanks for your comment and your mail, in which you mentioned that Denmark is one of the happiest countries in the world. Unfortunately that is a truth with a few modifications; and this type of event is one of them. Look after yourself; I'll be in touch.
posted by
elinjo
on August 14, 2009 at 7:06 AM
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The title of your post is so true! It's a sad situation for refugees, at the mercy of others....truly, the world should be for all human beings. Your posts are always so thought provoking! Nita.
posted by
Nita09
on August 14, 2009 at 5:34 AM
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Sometimes I believe the people who give the cold shoulder to
those seeking refuge haven't had similar experiences, therefore no empathy. They've never had their own feet held to the fire, never been afraid for their lives, never faced starvation. hungry. They seem selfish and cold. Other times I wonder if they've suffered their own deprivation and trauma and just can't stand any more. PTSD seems to have the world in its grip.
posted by
Pat_B
on August 14, 2009 at 4:25 AM
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Interesting.
I believe that people seeking help or asylum in a foreign country, should be accepted. Of course, there has to be exceptions - criminals from other countries for example, obviously shouldn't be permitted. But parents that wish a better life for his or her family, should be given the chance. We are all human and all inhabit this big blue and green planet, why can't we live as one? In the Star Trek universe there are no boundaries, the people share and help one another. John Lennon was right when he sang, Imagine. Great post, Betty.
posted by
Hackthorne19
on August 14, 2009 at 2:18 AM
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Re: It's very tricky isn't it
The British Nationalist party has been gaining strength, hasn't it Malcolm? All this type of thing sends shivers down my spine. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your holiday.
posted by
elinjo
on August 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
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It's very tricky isn't it
There is something of a right-wing revival in Britain, as often happens in times of economic downturn and there have been a number of incidents where innocent immigrants have been improperly singled out for blame.
posted by
malcolm
on August 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM
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Elinjo - It is the same here..First we had the Bosnian refugees and now even Somalian refugees. They are all housed under very questioning conditions and most times they are repatriated. Thank you for this and you have a nice day too.
posted by
shobana
on August 14, 2009 at 12:14 AM
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