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Corbin, I would never condone these morons and their obsession to take
every idea to its extreme paramaters. Yet, there was "A Modest Proposal" by Swift. Here the arogance is aimed at the Irish, during a time known as "the troubles", and before the Republic of Ireland got its constitution. So, there is that, a rugged equivalent to policies andprinciples. I think neither is a good excuse. What I'm asking for is leadership among your own people. Start thinking of your neighbors as your neighbors again, and not as O-bots drinking Jim Jonesian Kool-aid. We aren't close enough to the election year for that.
posted by
kingmi
on July 6, 2009 at 11:36 PM
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Thank you for the compliment on my previous comment.
Let me say that I do think a defenseless child suffering from a severe birth defect should be off limits. Yet Sarah Palin had no scruples about putting that child square into the middle of the limelight when it appeared to be to her benefit while campaigning for the Vice Presidency. Her downs syndrome child did not stop her from seeking high public office, or from being Governor of Alaska beforehand. Furthermore, she'll be putting her family back into that fishbowl you mentioned if she does seek the Presidency as you and many others speculate. So I hardly think protecting her family was the motive for her resignation.
It is also my understanding that not all of the ethics charges against her were found to be groundless. If I'm wrong about this I'm sure that you can cite all the dismissals of charges that prove me wrong.
I agree that Palin can probably make tons of money on the public speaking circuit, and that she will probably make a killing on her book regardless of its merit. I don't know, but this seems to be one of the more likely reasons for her resignation from the office of Governor of Alaska.
I find it a little strange that you cite Richard Nixon as an example of how to get things done politiically. I would think his Presidency left such a bad taste that most Republicans, conservative or not, would like to sweep all memory of it under the carpet.
I do think that moving more to the middle ground would make conservatives more palatable to the general public. I can say the same thing about far left -- a group that does not include President Obama. He is more of a centrist with some liberal leanings, much like myself.
Many of the complaints lodged against President Obama are eerily similar to complaints lodged against FDR, another Democrat in the White House forced to fix the problems of prior primarily Republican administrations. History seems to be repeating itself here.
I also agree that only time will tell which of us, if either, is more correct. In the meantime I hope we can be friends who agree to disagree about most matters political.
posted by
notapoet
on July 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM
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To your comment
This comment is an excellent post in itself. We need more like you on here who can put the truth into readable persuasion. It is awesome.
posted by
Justi
on July 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM
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Re: I think you greatly overestimate Palin's capabilities and potential.
First let me thank you for a quality comment, though I am a but disappointed that you didn't address the point of the post. The disgusting references to Sarah's child, Trig. So you visited HuffPo? Perhaps you should follow it for more than a few minutes to get a taste.....if there were articles critical of the fearless leader, it would be because his actions were not Liberal enough.....too Bush like on Gitmo, Patriot Act policies, and handling combatants, that's terrorists in the heartland.
So Sarah brings it upon herself, what does the little Downs Syndrom baby, Trig do to "bring it on" himself? Being born when he should have been properly disposed of?
Since I'm being pulled into making Sarah the brunt of the topic........I'll give it a go.......I think protecting her family was foremost on Sarah's mind. By resigning, she dims the fishbowl in which her children have been living. And she removes a huge drain on the family finances.
Since McCain selected her to be his running mate, 15 ethics complaints have been filed against her. All have been found to be baseless, but she and her husband have incurred nearly $600,000 in legal fees defending against them, a crushing burden for a middle class family.
With her resignation, the ethics complaint harassment goes away. If former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani can command six figures for a speech, so can Sarah. A half dozen such speeches, and their legal bills are gone.
Sarah has a book coming out early next year. If it sells well,(which it will) the Palins will be on easy street. Ms. Palin now will have leisure in which to write it, and will be able to promote it vigorously in the lower 48, something that would be impossible to do if she were still governor.
It's funny that you bring up Nixon......I think she is using his exact strategy.......After Barry Goldwater's disastrous defeat by LBJ in 1964, he spent most of 1965 and 1966 speaking at scores of fundraisers for Republican House and Senate candidates all over the country.
He did this tirelessly, with an obsession, and his national fame drew local donors to the fundraisers in droves.
The millions Nixon raised at these fundraisers enabled the GOP to gain 45+ House seats plus three in the Senate in '66. He had single-handedly raised the Republican Party from the dead. He articulated Republican positions better than anyone in the party - and most important, dozens of Republicans in Congress owed their seats to him.
Their support in state after state enabled him to sweep the primaries in spring '68 and the nomination was his.....I was there, it was a beautiful system....we started the foundation for kitchen-table politics......Karl Rove was a College republican organizer back then....
Let me guess, you think Conservatives should seek the middle ground, go after Independents and "Moderates".......uh huh, well, that's exactly the trap we fell into when we picked McCain......that's as moderate as you could find, yet McCain was damaged because of the number of Conservatives that stayed home.......
Those on the left need to be afraid....be very afraid........Sarah can match Obama's chrisma.....and motivate a huge chunk of pissed off Americans watching their income and their children's future incomes being squandered on social experimentation.........
Time will tell.......I hope were both around here in 2010 and 2012, to see who's closest to being right!
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Corbin_Dallas
on July 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM
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Corbin Dallas
People are scary and un-American who espouse such drivel as those who belittle Palin. It is not about her, her policies but about their fear. A frightened animal is a danger. The progressive left is a very dangerous animal.
posted by
Justi
on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
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I think you greatly overestimate Palin's capabilities and potential.
Furthermore, I fear you may be running the risk of becoming one of those pots calling the kettle black. Curiosity caused me to find "The Huffington Post" and see how far left it actually was. What I found was a diversity of opinions that among other things (Gasp!) questioned some of Obama's actions and policies. It wasn't quite a far left radical rag as you intimated. All that aside, I think the main reason Palin draws so much ridicule is that she brings it upon herself. Personally, I think she is one of the last people conservatives should be looking to in order to reverse the whomping they took in the last election. Of course I could be wrong. After failing to win election to the office of Governor of California, I thought Richard Nixon stood a snowball's chance of being elected dog catcher, much less President of the United States. Sadly, I was mistaken. Palin doesn't scare me as much as Nixon did, but I don't think I could ever become comfortable with her election to high public office. Nor do I think she will ever receive much support from those not counted among the farthest right of the far right wing. Time will tell.
posted by
notapoet
on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
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Corbin
I was never terribly impressed with the McCain/Palin ticket, or with each of the individuals separately. But I must say that I am now impressed with the way Palin has handled the barrage of vicious attacks she's been subjected to...
Oh, and the 'shrooms? Want some? 
posted by
Nautikos
on July 6, 2009 at 6:29 AM
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