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kooka_lives - in this case I didn't know I was blocked until I read your

comment and checked it out.

I don't think I ever commented on that person's blog, I only remember them coming to my blog and spewing their beliefs at me. When I suggested that I could not see them ever standing for me doing exactly the same thing on their blog, the point was completely missed. Offence was taken, a couple of misquotes followed and if I remember, a post of misconstrued drivel about what the blogger thought I was saying ensued. I read the post and decided to leave the blogger alone.

It's not like we haven't seen this type of behavior from those spreading the love of Jesus before.

posted by gomedome on April 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM | link to this | reply

Gomedome

They get me confused with either you or my father. I know I was blocked one time because a good old Christian blogger was upset with my father but was unable to see that we were two different people and that I had not been harassing her in the least. But I guess having different user names and different writing styles and different issues we focus on and so on is jut not good enough. Since we both disagree with their views, the delusional fundamentalist conservatives are going to generalize us and get confused as to who is who. After all we are only real people if we think like they do.

posted by kooka_lives on April 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - when you say this:

"I am guessing you have me confused with some other blogger then." . . . 3 guesses who that other blogger might be.

posted by gomedome on April 24, 2009 at 6:17 AM | link to this | reply

TexasGem, I somewhat owe you an apology

You did start off with a respectful attitude towards me in our first few exchanges, but then you misunderstood a comment I left for you and never followed up to see my clarification here. You jumped to a conclusion as to what I was saying and it sounds like you allowed you prejudices to take over in how you viewed me.

And I kept trying to point you back to that comments section in hopes that you would go there are see what I was saying and get over the attitude you have towards me that is fully based on a misunderstanding.

Also, I noticed that I have never once commented on any of your posts and that I am not blocked by you as you have claimed. I am guessing you have me confused with some other blogger then.

posted by kooka_lives on April 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM | link to this | reply

TaxesGem. are you sure you're not on mind altering drugs?

Because your whole comment clearly shows you have a very weak grasp on reality.

First off, it is no great compliment to be told that you can do what anyone else with five minutes and enough information can do. It is NOT hard to track people down now days. I am well aware that here is enough information right here on Blogit for anyone to use to learn a lot about me. I a not the paranoid kind, so I generally do not worry about it much. After all most everyone else I have encountered here on Blogit seems to have enough sense to not even suggest doing such a thing, even as a joke, because not only is it in poor taste, but it could get them thrown off of Blogit, just for saying it even jokingly. Be glad I am not an a-hole or we really would not be having this exchange. Seriously, just making such a statement could have gotten you thrown off if you said it to the wrong person here.

Then the fact is I DON'T KNOW YOU. I have no idea how messed up in the head you are. There are people out there who very much would do what you claim you were joking about. As I pointed out earlier here, a Christian blogger who disliked what Gomedome was saying went and actually tried to screw up some of Gomedome's business deals a few years back. That blogger very much crossed a line that common sense says you don't cross. So I KNOW that there are bloggers out there who if they got their mind set on it, very much would be capable of doing what you threatened to do. And since it is clear to me that your grasp on reality is not the best (And this had noting to do with you religious beliefs by the way), I do not know just what you are capable of doing.

Actually I very much DO NOT group all Christians in the same category. I do all I can to avoid generalizations and stereotypes. What I have said here about you is about YOU, not any other Christians out there. I started my relationship with you like I do all others here, with an open mind and ready to get along. It was YOU who went and started mocking me and my views and of course blocking me because you disliked what I had to say about your ideas, even though I was much more polite towards you and your beliefs than you have ever been towards me and mine. If you wish to push this point, I can do the same thing I did with RSM there when he tried to make the claim that I was the one who acted without respect towards him first. I found our first few exchanges here and it was clear beyond clear that I kept trying to get along with him and he just acted like a jerk towards me back,just because I was an atheist. I promise you it was the same thing between us. You are acting like so many before you who just do not wish to try and get along with me, all because you dislike my views.

I agree that we each have the right to believe as we so feel the need to. And I do not claim that you are on drugs because of your religious beliefs. I make such mocking claims because you have shown you have a weak grasp of reality and are not aware of what has been said or is being done around you. Your first comment here clearly said you knew NOTHING about me, when all you had to do to was check out my 'about me' page' or take five seconds to look at my other blogs. Instead you make a very ignorant comment that was insulting in tone, suggesting that when I talk about religious concept it is a waste of time, while when you do such it is uplifting and worthy. I don't care about what your beliefs are, but that you show me respect for mine. I promise you all I am doing is showing you the same level of respect you showed to me first.

And I am not about to get into the abortion issue here or the murder issue. But the truth is that if you believe in the loophole for kids getting into Heaven, it weakens the abortion stance and it justifies killing one's children while they are still young and 'safe' from sin.

posted by kooka_lives on April 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, yeah I obviously started it all

TexasGem couldn't be on drugs, just because he has such a weak sense of reality. For him to say what he said made it clear he knew nothing about what he was talking about. If he took one second and checked my 'about me' page he would have known that I do write about a great many other things. It is not my fault he makes such comments without knowing all the facts first. It is not like I ma trying to hide the other stuff I write

Basically he came off as yet another believer who is very much afraid of the concepts and questions I present and instead of actually trying to prove me wrong, he goers and tries to discourage me from writing about my views on religious ideas. I very much find it insulting to have someone be judgmental about me expressing my views not being as justified as him expressing his own, which is more or less what he was saying in that comment. He made it very clear that him talking toucans his religious beliefs was a good thing, while I was just wasting my time talking about mine. It is insulting.

posted by kooka_lives on April 23, 2009 at 5:04 PM | link to this | reply

Gomedome

He's only happy when he can find others to put down it seems. He claims he is agianst bullying,but I have not seen a greater bully here on Blogit myself. He goes out of his way to try and insult those who are not like him and make it clear how much better of a person he is than all of us who do not share his views.

posted by kooka_lives on April 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM | link to this | reply

Loner

One thing about any concept such as heaven, is it will be different for everyone who believes in it. In truth the idea of Heaven for any two believers is not going to be the same. What I focus on here is the more generalized concept of Heaven, which i can see nothing of value in myself and am lost as to why anyone would desire such a thing. I also see nothing to be desired in any form of immortality. I figure this life is all that you get and so you need to do the most you can with it and make sure you don't waste it because once it is over, then it is over.

Thank you for your comment.

And I do agree with you about those who live in their little delusions based on willful ignorance. But they seem to be everywhere.

posted by kooka_lives on April 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM | link to this | reply

Now isn't that special, chucklehead comes whining here of all places

posted by gomedome on April 22, 2009 at 6:16 AM | link to this | reply

Don't know, the idea of Heaven as a metaphor for Peace On Earth has always been comforting to me. As has the idea of attaining Nirvana. As to the idea of Pearly Gates, only people I've ever known that really believe in what your post is about also believe that the planet is 7,000 years old and that man walked the Earth with dinosaurs... there's really no speaking to that kind of delusional, willful ignorance. And if a lobotomy is willing... they're probably better off with one~

posted by LonerGreen on April 21, 2009 at 9:42 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Re: You will never here this one....

How true that statement is Corbin. Just look at what TG started out with in his comments then look up above how it escalated to "Are you on drugs?" Then they claim you started it just because you disagree with their beliefs. You are right about why bother. Gomedome blocked me from commenting on his posts which I am sure I will suffer many a sleepless nights over that issue, lol. I say just let them write back and forth to themselves. I have never blocked anyone on Blogit for over 7 years. I rest my case. Have fun!

posted by RedStatesMan on April 21, 2009 at 7:53 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: ROTFLMAO.......

problem is, it sure looked like it was serious.

kids have been kicked out of school for such "funnies"

the FBI has investigated threats made in jest.

you gotta watch what you say -- it can be misconstrued -- it sure looked serious to me.

posted by Xeno-x on April 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - it always boggles my mind to read exchanges such as this

We see it all the time where someone wanders into a blog, doesn't quite get anything being said, attempts to make their beliefs your problem and a few cheerleaders take up position on the sidelines. None of these people know the half of what attrocious behavior has been perpetrated in the name of their religion on this site. Almost as many of them are incapable of distinguishing when one of their fellow believers have crossed the line.

posted by gomedome on April 21, 2009 at 6:45 AM | link to this | reply

Re: And texsagem,

Reverand, I appreciate that you think that I have the ability to track people down. I don't have time nor will any reputable people give you personal information about anyone else because of the privacy act. You should be smart enough to know that. If I or anyone else ever starts to harrass or stalk you, then you should protect yourself. Quite frankly Reverand, You nor I matter enough for people to waste time on us. Stalkers want people that are important or wealthy or something like that and you do not strike me as any of the above.

Some people are like cement: their mind is thoughly mixed up and permanently set. I know nothing about gomer or anyone stalking him or whatever nor do I know anything about the blogger that wanted to meet up with you. It is like I told a blogger the other day not to cast her pearls before swine. That is what the Bible says. I do not claim to know all there is to know about the Bible and I have NEVER said that I am the only one who is right. I have NEVER told anyone if they don't believe like me that they are doomed. You seem to group all Christians into one category and that is not fair.

You believe what you want to but you have no right to tell me or anyone else that I am crazy or loony or on drugs or totally wrong. You and I are NOT on the same page but we each have a right to believe as we wish. If I choose to have my sights on heaven, that is my business. Whatever you choose to be is your business but don't lamblast others that don't see your way of thinking. You are on a personal vandetta against all Christians which isn't right. However, there is no common ground with you because you are the ONLY one who knows anything and you are always right. Reverand, believe what you want, do what you want, write what you want, curse God if you want. Nobody can stop you, but just maybe one day you will give account for your words and deeds just like I will.

BTW, I am not a pro-abortionist. I am pro-life and in my opinion murder in any form is SIN!

posted by Texas_Gem on April 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM | link to this | reply

And texsagem,

I am positive I know far more about your Bible and what it really say than you do. I honestly have ye to meet a good old Christian who truly understand it better than I do. And I DO NOT take harassment and stalking as a joke. I have already dealt with one blogger who kept insisting that I meet up with him 'just to talk' which I made it clear I had no interest in and then he admitted his whole goal was to preach to me. And I pointed out what happened to Gomedome in my comment to Corbin there. So I am already fully aware that there are some bloggers who do not grasp just where the line is and are willing to cross it. So I am not going to take it as a joke, because I DON'T know you or just how removed from reality you really are.

posted by kooka_lives on April 20, 2009 at 4:35 PM | link to this | reply

TexasGem

Hunting down my address and sending people to my house is STALKING and HARASSMENT and I have every right to take such a statement seriously and tell you that I do not wish for you to know anything more about me than the information I have put out there. Your are threatening to cross a line that I will retaliate against. I really do hope you are not dumb enough to follow through with that, because will not stand for such violation of me privacy.

For the record, I do belittle or berate your beliefs. I disagree with them and openly question them but if you look at my posts, it is a very polite manner. And as long as you are civil towards me, I am civil towards you back. if I start to mock your beliefs, it is generally because you mocked me first that whole last comment to me was fully insulting and degrading and I am going to take offensive when you are that rude. Just because people wish to openly talk about the problems they see with your religions ideas does not mean they are 'crying out for help' or are 'lost' or any of that other nonsense you spitted out.

I have never once said you have no right to your beliefs. And I have never tried to force you to believe otherwise. After all I am not the one saying you are 'lost' and 'crying out for help' just because you do not share my beliefs. Fin for me where I have degraded you any where near the manner in which you were degrading me in that last comment of yours?

And I am not at all surprised you have me blocked. Most likely when you did I mocked you for doing it. You are scared of me and that is why you, like several other Christians here on Blogit, have blocked me. I give you question you are unable to answer and have no way to mentally deal with and so instead of looking at them openly and honestly, you make personal attacks and run away. I have only ever blocked one blogger here and he was a lot like you. he did not understand who to show respect for other people's beliefs and he made it very clear that his beliefs were all that mattered and anyone who did not see things as he did he could degrade, just as you are trying to do here.

As for me being negative... I am not the one who believe in Heaven and Hell, which is about as negative as you can get. You embrace a truly no win situation as if it were something of value. You openly show you have no value for the strength of the individual,. After all you have that truly self degrading quote on your 'about me ' page "HE must INCREASE & I must decrease." which is far to negative for me. I could easily go on about how negative your views are and how they show that you are closed minded and unable to see the big picture, but that would be me sinking to your level of rudeness and I figure I should stop while I am ahead in this. I don't read your negative load of crap, and have no need for you to read my insightful, thought provoking, uplifting concepts that I express here.

The truth is that if you come to my blogs with an open mind and really read wast I have to say, there is no insulting going on. I only return the level of respect I am giving by other bloggers. If you dislike how I reply to your comments, most likely it is because YOU showed me and my beliefs disrespect first.

posted by kooka_lives on April 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM | link to this | reply

Re: ROTFLMAO.......

Corbin, Everyone picked up the funny but him. Poor guy! He must have something to hide. He writes about stuff that he knows NOTHING about and when he reads intelligent blogs it is greek to him. Poor guy! Bless his heart!

posted by Texas_Gem on April 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin

If i told you that I was going to look up your personal information and send my friends to your house to harass and stalk you, would you find that a joke? That is crossing a line. I did not invite him to learn anything more about me than what I have put up here on Blogit and no one has the right to do as he has threated to do to me. It is HARASSMENT and it is STALKING an I am going to take such threats seriously. I already know for a fact that one such believer went and tried to ruin some of Gomedomes business transactions, so I am already fully aware that ther are those who join Blogit and do not understand the boundaries.

Of course if I said anything like that to one of your Chrsiitant bloggers, you would be right here saying how you were ready to get me banned form Blogit for harassment.

posted by kooka_lives on April 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM | link to this | reply

Re: TexasGem, WTF are you going on about?

Reverand, I am not harrassing nor stalking you. I just want you to know that have every right to believe that there is no God, no heaven, no hell, no children in heaven. Had I lost a 6-year old daughter, I would be grateful to know that she is now alright.

You can say what you want to and cuss at Christians and use foul language about God but anything, REVERAND, that anyone that associates with Christ, you belittle, berate, and make it known that we are crazy, or delusional or that we are not going to heaven or that we are twisted because we believe that there is a God. I have as much right to believe that there is a God as you do to believe that there is not one. You are a big bully and seem to think that you are Mr. Right. Well, I tell you what REVERAND, let's just wait until the end of time and see who is right. If you are right, I will stop the world and get off. If I am right, I will dip my finger in cold water and try to cool you off. Is it a deal?

BTW, you can block me because I have had you blocked for a long time. I am not scared of you and I am not trying to scare you. Your posts are as stupid as you think all Christians posts are. I really don't care what you write because it is always negative and draining. Reverand, do what you have to do, and we'll all live happily ever after. One more thing, the drugs that I am on are for a stroke that I had, 2 heart attacks, high blood pressure, diabetes, gout, high lipids, and GERD. Does any of those qualify me for MHMR? If it does, try to get me in at the same one that you go to, ok?

Relax Reverand, all is well that ends well. Good Day!

posted by Texas_Gem on April 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM | link to this | reply

ROTFLMAO.......

TG....stop it.....you're tearing up my gut from the laughter......

posted by Corbin_Dallas on April 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

TexasGem, WTF are you going on about?

Now you really are just spitting out gibberish without thinking at all of what ti is you are saying.

I am guessing you are talking about the bullying when you say 'abuse' and I am clueless as to where you got the molestation' thing from. What gave you that idea? What drugs are you really on? I have already dealt with the issues from my childhood, mostly by understand the simple truth that there is no God an that if you want to be able to enjoy life and be a strong person, you have to understand that it is up to you to do that. I am not 'bruised' or 'bleeding' and I need no help, especially from the likes of you, who would only try to destroy my sense of self and turn me into a mindless sheep.

And if you send any of you dumb-ass friend in the area to harass me, I will take that as HARASSMENT. Interestingly enough, that alone might be enough to get you band form Blogit just for making the threat of stalking. As far as I am concerned that is stalking, even if you are just having others hut me down. I find it very disturbing and if you do follow though with that, I will get you off of Blogit and look into what other legal actions I can take. I do NOT wish for you or anyone connected to you to make contact with me. I have no need at all for the help that in your delusional state believe i need. Get off the drugs and stop trying to rad into my posts something that is very much not there. After that threat of stalking me, I am very much considering blocking you and contacting Blogit about this very disturbing and scary behavior of yours. Did you make the same threat to ZenMom (Could you tell me what is wrong with group sex by the way?)and my father? if so that is a disturbing pattern and you are one sick, sick puppy in need of help.

And what tangent are you talking about? I openly admit I get frustrated with those like you are are beyond clueless as to what they are reading and somehow only understand things the way they desire to understand them. I mean your comment sher show you have no idea what I am talking about and are far to focused on seeing me in the generalizations and stereotypes you wish to apply to me.

Your whole comment was pure insult towards me and shows you do not understand a thing I am saying here. You just are unable to open your mind and see past you own weak, narrow views and get the whole picture. You follow stereotypes and generalizations and are unable to set the reality that your beliefs are NOT for everyone and that people like me can be happy and well balanced without believing in God or the Bible.

If I were you I would be very careful in any future comments here. Your threats of harassment and stalking crossed a line and I am right now ready to report you if I feel you are going to follow through with those threats.

posted by kooka_lives on April 20, 2009 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

Re: TexasGem, you are on drugs right?

Now Reverand, calm down. I am not on drugs, but I am very concerned about you Sir. The blog you wrote about your childhood is sending up red flags and I am already at work. I fear that all the abuse you suffered is the reason that you go off on tangents like you do. I know it is not the real you, but you are brusied and bleeding and hurting inside. You have sent signals that you need help.

I am not as bad as you suggest that I am. I just want to help you get over the abuse and possibly molestation and God only knows what all. Not to fear Reverand. I have an attorney friend that has a high dollar, high tech, system that can find most anyone and I am giving him your post, picture, your city, and other pertinent info and he will be able to locate you and I will dispatch some good Christian workers in the Bolder area to help you. Being in the FBI-C Company has its advantages and Reverand help will arrive soon. You had an awful childhood and it has spilled over into your adult life.

I am including some of your posts, comments, etc, to prayer partners around the world and the sun will never set on prayers being sent up for you. Buddy, don't worry; we are going to get you through all of this. You being a Reverand and learning this horrible things that have happened to you, makes me sad. You are crying out for help in your writings and Reverand I only heard them a day or so ago. My friend we are praying for Zensmom too. Her comment about group sex being worth going to hell over says that she thinks nobody in the world cares about her. Not to fear Reverand. I have copied and sent some of her posts and comments and people are praying for her as well. Then there is poor Xeno Man who begs for someone to rescue his soul from the torment that he lives with.

Reverand K, things are going to change for you my brother. Someone will be visiting with you soon, praying with you, and comforting you. Hang on dear brother because your pleas for help have been heard. I am going to write to you every day and will be giving prayer warriors updates to let them know your progress.

Please don't write a thank you note to me Reverand. A wounded brother like yourself is worth all the effort when we see you restored. God bless you Reverand!

posted by Texas_Gem on April 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM | link to this | reply

TexasGem, you are on drugs right?

After you views on Jesus sayings all kids get to go into heaven (Which basically is a pro-abortion stance as well as defending the mothers who have killed their children to save them from becoming sinners) you stop making any sense at all.

In my religion Blog, that is in the religious section of Blogit I write about religion. I need not believe in God to write about what I see with the concepts of God that are out there. I write about God and the Bible and other religious beliefs and ideas in order to better understand them. I have no idea why there are believers who feel that only those who believe should talk about the ideas of God. I want to better understand people and why they think as they do.

I have a political blog and a journal blog and a poetry blog and a fiction blog and so on. I have many others blogs here that I do blog in when I have the time and something to say. I am too complex of a person to not be looking into all possible areas of life and trying to better understands things. I do write fiction and have a handful of stories published.

It almost seems as though you might be afraid of someone asking these kind of questions or showing possible flaws in your beliefs. You really seem to want me to go away and stop making you uncomfortable.

Then you really throw me for a loop when you say "how the lack of relationships set you back for a time". What are you talking?

posted by kooka_lives on April 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: You will never here this one....

TG....Why bother...they try to wear you down.....

posted by Corbin_Dallas on April 20, 2009 at 6:52 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: You will never here this one....

I simply asked a simple question after stating some facts.

Would it seem that you might not be all that secure in your religion?

posted by Xeno-x on April 20, 2009 at 6:51 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: You will never here this one....

question is

are you Catholic? If not, you aren't going to Heaven.

If so, you are not going to Heaven.

which is it?

posted by Xeno-x on April 20, 2009 at 6:50 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: You will never here this one....

xman you are the one with all the answers so it doesn't matter what i say according to you i am wrong and you are right.

posted by Texas_Gem on April 20, 2009 at 6:37 AM | link to this | reply

Re: You will never here this one....

of course, Texasgem, some people wil say that YOU are not going to Heaven

Born-agains exclude Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians and others who do not ascribe to the born-again way.

Then again, the Catholic religion teaches that only Catholics can get into Heaven.

So are you are are you not? And . . . if you are wrong even if you think you are absolutely right?

posted by Xeno-x on April 20, 2009 at 5:30 AM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - that is one of the most puzzling aspects of these concepts

Ask anyone who believes in heaven and hell and they will outright state that entry into heaven is a priviledge reserved for a select few. The list always includes themselves and their loved ones, which of course contradicts the very idea of it being a priviledge reserved for a select few.

posted by gomedome on April 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM | link to this | reply

You will never here this one....

"I guess I'll go and find my daughter who died when she was just six. That will make me feel better."

"No luck with that one," St. Peters remarks. "Most kids don't care about God and when that say they are sorry or ask for forgiveness, generally they really do not mean it. So since they are not sincere about it all, they're just out of luck."

Christ rebuked his disciples for refusing to let children come to him, and He set them straight in a hurry and told them to NEVER keep the children from him. He held them and blessed them because he has a love for children. In the gospels, he teaches that unless you become as a little child, you won't make it into heaven. [note: you is the ones he was addressing at the time] So if you know a child that died when s/he was young, they will surely be in heaven. God is not the ogre that you paint him up to be, and he never forces himself upon anyone. He gives everyone a choice and each believes who or what they will serve.

The one thing that I don't understand about your writing is that for someone who does not believe in God or the bible or heaven, you spend your entire blog talking about these. What's up with that? The blogs that I write and the ones others write is not to you or about you. You choose to read them and disagree with something that doesn't exist and from your point of view how can you argue about something that does not exist? Ignore us and write about something that concerns you and the joy you have from whatever it is that causes it. There are many other subject categories that it seems to me that you would be better suited for. Keep a journal of your life and its many pleasure or write poetry expressing you belief in non-higher powers or the cruelities of children and how the lack of relationships set you back for a time. Be the galloping gourmet or write about how good a bath made you feel when your self-esteem approved. There are so many other things that you could write about that could make you rich and famous. Who knows, kooko may take Stephen King's throne. Worth a try.

Hope this helps. Don't delay - get started today! The power of words that you command could make you a mint. I'll be looking for great things from you man. later!

posted by Texas_Gem on April 19, 2009 at 8:21 PM | link to this | reply

Hey......if there IS a heaven (no worries, I know it's crap)...but let's pretend. IF there IS....at least I will know one person up there..................YOU...........and a few other blogit members.

But, I think you'll need a few more women........

posted by ZenMom on April 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM | link to this | reply