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OTA, thanks for this.
Its only because I believe in after life I can deal with all this and also my Zen approach to life makes me keep the grief and guilt in proportion.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 13, 2008 at 6:12 AM
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I am so sorry about this... words completley fail me.. the "why" of it doesnt enter my mind so much as the what could we do differently to prevent these things from happeing. One of my dearest friends killed herself this summer. I have waves of "if only I had done x or y" she might still be with us. Again, I am truly sorry for the loss of life. ~Peace
posted by
Blue_feathers
on December 13, 2008 at 4:44 AM
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Whacky, yes ndeed there is something VERY wrong
right under our noses and we don't see it.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 12, 2008 at 7:52 PM
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Bhaskar.ing, so terrible to read about your neighbours
it's the utter hopelessness that people feel that leads them to end their lives. AS you say, pranayam, among theings can save lives. But, it takes a lot more than this. It's our whole approach to live that makes people feel desperate, not ask for help, feel they are utterly alone and that they have no other recourse.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 12, 2008 at 7:52 PM
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So very sad...
something is very wrong somewhere.
posted by
Whacky
on December 11, 2008 at 9:11 PM
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Greenfields
All this is so sad. Suicide incidents seems to be on the rise. Failure of the coping mechanism in modern day pressures has made precious life too vulnerable. I am sure that you as a medical practioner know what is best for them. Pranayam, I believe, is the best in calming the mind and to improve this mechanism. Just the other day, our next door neighbor, my age, 52 around, he and his wife both committed suicide by burning themselves. He was a drunkard but money was not the problem.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on December 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM
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sam444, thank you for the heartfelt response and
sharing of your experience. I am so glad that you are with us today to share this wisdom, and to be able to empathise with people who have taken to suicide. I love my work and do my best to be available to people who need someone at the darkest hours of their life. A big hug to you.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM
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Pat B, actually, its not a 'dark' area for me at all.
As a therapist, I face this all the time. I see it as an oportunity to appreacite what I have and yest be in the place that have so much pain that they cannot live For me, its very sobering.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM
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ladychardonnay, you are right
the poeple left behind suffer agreat deal. But, I think that the personw ho took their life wasn't thinking about that. It sprecisely because they were in so mcuh pain that they did waht they did. At some point, the 'why' may nt be relevant anymore. We have to let that go and just accet the fact that that peson felt they couldn't living.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 11, 2008 at 7:56 PM
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mysteria, a great deal of reflection needed and that
communicaiton at the right time matters.
posted by
Greenfields
on December 11, 2008 at 7:53 PM
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Hello Greenfields! I read this yesterday but was unable to respond. The loss is devastating! I am so glad that you chose to extend yourself to prevent a possible suicide. I am so sorry for your loss. I was unable to respond because I could have easily been one of those folks. I have been institutionalized twice for such attempts. Once in my 30's and again in my 40's. I had been on anti depressants too! I don't know why I did what I did all these years later. For me, it was like my mind failed me and rational thought just wasn't present. What I have come to understand is that the drugs are not enough. One needs counseling as part of the treatment plan. I almost think that the counseling is more important than the medication (but they have to be present to right the chemical imbalance). I have a superb medical team now and that gives me great confidence to overcome any obstacles that might crop up and I might find myself at wits ends and not desiring to continue living. I don't know that we will ever understand suicide. My faltering came at the times when I had it all, great job, beautiful home, three wonderful children and yet, I did it anyway. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting your patient first, you will never know how much that can mean to an ill person. I have never been able to express it to the people who were there for me either. Just know that the work you do saves lives! sam
posted by
sam444
on December 11, 2008 at 12:26 PM
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I'm sorry you lost your friend, and that her death has set you
thinking on such a dark idea. I hope you'll be able to remember the joyful parts of her life very soon.
posted by
Pat_B
on December 11, 2008 at 4:38 AM
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i have suffered from depression and anxiety for years - but i never thought of suicide because i couldn't hurt my children like that and life is too precious to throw away like that. but what really bothers me is when i hear of a suicide and there is no note or reason why. what the poor family must have to deal with - wondering why.
posted by
ladychardonnay
on December 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
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so sad...
suicide ...what to say?
posted by
mysteria
on December 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
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