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Re: gapcohen - I am really reluctant to continue this discussion
I will let a Muslim columnist from Islamabad explain the Arab League in my next post. His are real facts from within. If you care to read, you might be surprised....
posted by
gapcohen
on July 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM
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gapcohen - I am really reluctant to continue this discussion
You have taken it off on an emotionally charged tangent utilizing half truths and your own inherent bias. I'm simply not interested in any discussion where only one perspective of a historical chronicle is acceptable. I will however clarify the closing words of my last post on the subject even though the meanings should be self evident.
The biggest lessons we must learn as global citizens are to not impose our will on other peoples but at the same time we must know when intervention serves a greater good. Since the inception of the state of Israel, heightened tensions in the region have had the capability of plunging the world into a much wider conflict. There is nothing implied in this last sentence suggesting that Jews are troublemakers, or whatever juvenile expression you used - it is simply a fact. I am also going to assume that you took exception to the word "blunder" . . . another fact is that Arabs in the region have been anti-Israel since the very first draft of the Mandate of Palestine by the British, a stance that has never been fully addressed or appeased. The fact that these grievances have never been fully appeased has always left open the possibility, as I mentioned, of wider conflict starting in the middle east; But in recent years and especially since the break up of the Soviet Union which eliminated the perceived superpower counterbalance, a new threat has emerged. With the possible development of, or access to nuclear weapons by anti-Israeli factions (Iran for example) the threat of nuclear conflict in the region is no longer just a remote possibility.
If this happens, it doesn't really matter who is right or wrong, or who has a right to be on that land or not. Everyone citizen of this planet loses and you can be sure of one thing in the aftermath; history will treat the formation of the state of Israel over objections by the Arab League, the Arab Higher Committee and the regional Arabic communities and nations as the greatest blunder in recent world history.
If these blunt truths from a perspective that is neither pro-Israeli nor pro-Arab are so disagreeable to you, we can consider this discussion over.
posted by
gomedome
on July 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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Gomedome
Sorry I might have jumped to conclusions re: your final statement. Word for word, it read;
the establishment of Israel in 1948 may turn out to be the biggest blunder in mankind's recent history.
The clock cannot be turned back now but as global citizens we must be certain that we learn from this segment of history.
So, in your own words, I'd like to know exactly what you did mean to imply by this?
posted by
gapcohen
on July 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM
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gapcohen - when you make direct reference to another blogger, you should
really try to portray their words and sentiments accurately.
In all of the opinions I have expressed pertaining to this subject, I have used nothing but facts to formulate them. On those grounds, I will state here for the record that your closing paragraph is a blatant misrepresentation.
I summarized the initial discussion by stating that the clock cannot be turned back but the global community must learn from this example. That hardly implies the sentiments you accuse of me of harboring but you did get to play your final card in a thinly veiled charge of my proliferating anti-semitism.
I'm going to bow out of your blog now as you did mine, though I'm not going to become insulting as you did. I will however add just a little bit of advice; hearing truths that you do not like is not persecution.
posted by
gomedome
on July 16, 2008 at 9:56 AM
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