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Re: Naut, I just went to our local torture device shop and priced
Pat, dancing in the dining room is excellent, especially if you're dancing on the table after a couple of glasses of wine and lots of chocolate drops...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 31, 2007 at 5:08 AM
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nautikos
we are just hitting that ideal weather - no longer cold, and well before impossible heat. just to underline the point, i've walked two days in a row (just ask my hip joints). ouch.
posted by
mneme
on August 31, 2007 at 5:05 AM
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mneme
That sounds about right! Of course, I have a couple of glasses of wine
with dinner as well, and I usually begin with an
hors d'oeuvre of chocolate drops...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 31, 2007 at 5:05 AM
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mneme
I guess that's my problem, then! The weather in these parts is completely unsuitable! If I want to lose weight, I gotta move...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 31, 2007 at 5:00 AM
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Ps - I should talk.. two glasses of wine and a handful of chocolate drops after dinner.
posted by
mneme
on August 31, 2007 at 4:41 AM
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Nautikos
the way to lose weight is to 'wait' till the weather is just right - not too cold, not too hot - for a daily walk. Or so I tell myself.
posted by
mneme
on August 31, 2007 at 4:40 AM
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Naut, I just went to our local torture device shop and priced
a treadmill, thinking to tone up what I can't seem to lose... Unfortunately their sale prices are still double what I'm willing to pay. I guess I'll start dancing in the dining room, pump up the Bose and let the Eagles rock...
posted by
Pat_B
on August 30, 2007 at 3:29 PM
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Good Afternoon Offy hon
posted by
Nautikos
on August 29, 2007 at 10:21 AM
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Good Morning Naut
posted by
Offy
on August 29, 2007 at 5:00 AM
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Re: I just read a feature in the CSPI Nutrition journal that belly fat,
Pat, you're absolutely correct. I have looked at a lot of those studies myself, and the evidence is just overwhelming. I have a special edition of one of my favourite magazines in front of me as I write, it's called Feast and Famine, Scientific American, September 2007. Do yourself a favor and get a copy! As should everybody else!
One little observation: nobody should look like an apple! Women may look like pears, and men should look like upside-down pears...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 3:37 PM
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I just read a feature in the CSPI Nutrition journal that belly fat,
the visceral level, not that which is just under the skin, actually produces inflammatory and insulin resistant chemicals - the so-called oxidants. According to the article, scientific studies show that having a waistline of more than 35" means your own belly fat is spewing out cancer-causing chemicals. Being sedentary causes this chemical spill to increase -- walking 12 miles a week will slow it down a bit, jogging 20 will reverse it...
posted by
Pat_B
on August 28, 2007 at 2:09 PM
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.Dave
I understand. Would be very disconcerting if the important bit were missing...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 12:06 PM
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Re: Not just overweight like me? I saw the picture.....you're doing fine!
Thanks for the compliments, Chyrlann! It's been a bit of a struggle for me after the accident, and I ain't there yet, but I'm getting closer.
And you're quite right, of course - it's not just a question of calories. Metabolism has a lot to do with it, and factors of health. And congrats on your own weight loss! 
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 12:03 PM
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TAPS
Doctor's orders override all the other stuff! I too sometimes have a steak, strictly for medicinal reasons...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't want to be that .9 of a person. Which bit is missing?
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on August 28, 2007 at 8:42 AM
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Not just overweight like me? I saw the picture.....you're doing fine!
I have an objective view as opposed to subjective? (I think that is an 'in the eyes of the overweighter' view), like opinions regarding an art-piece, subjective or objective by the viewer? None the less......I have recently learned why I was unable to lose weight, ie; obsessive exerciser, veg/healthy food-eater. The scales would not drop, very discouraging. I have what is known as insulin resistance (not diabetis, but the precursor) and many remain living with this...precursor without ever submitting to full blown diabetis because they do exercise & eat right, but their basal metabolic thingy is awry.
I wasn't 'getting' enough protein, even so eating very little...I couldn't digest it. The repercussions are found in being fatigued after eating, mid-line belly fat, etc., contributing to low metabolism. So....I found a protein (for the first time since my female surgery eight years ago, which is what started the chain reaction), that I could digest. I have lost ten lbs. in six weeks. First time scales went backwards in eight years & feels good. The entire overweight thing has been overwhelmingly discouraging because I wasn't even eating meat, doing all the right things, very disciplined and getting nowhere!
So, in conclusion....(di,di,di,da), obviously fast food garbage is contributing to a mass majority, but others are fighting the insulin resistance problem & it just takes the right type of protein (healthy) to get back on track! But....you look f-i-n-e darling! ~Blessings~
posted by
roadscross
on August 28, 2007 at 7:30 AM
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Nautikos
I'm still trying to push the proteins on Son #1 because that's what his doctors want for him. Yesterday I cooked him a nice little beef chuck roast that tasted and smelled so good that I couldn't keep from picking at it. Oh woe is me!
posted by
TAPS.
on August 28, 2007 at 7:27 AM
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Re: Australians evidently have worse figures than Northern America do
Congrats on the weight loss, Kabu. Of course, I know the real reason - you were getting too heavy for your broom...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 7:17 AM
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riri
I'm sure your puddy tats are on a proper diet...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 7:15 AM
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Offy hon
From what I have seen, you don't have to lose
any weight...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 7:14 AM
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Justi
It's pretty well established that the level of hormones in our red meats is too high. Of course, it's not done so that
we should ingest that, but simply to grow the animals more rapidly. I don't eat much red meat, mostly chicken and fish, but even with that we have problems...
posted by
Nautikos
on August 28, 2007 at 7:12 AM
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Australians evidently have worse figures than Northern America do
and our obesity in kids is just alarming. We are what we eat. It's that simple. We have to stop blaming evryone else. since my separation and I eat my kinda meals fruit cheese little fibre bread nuts occassional fish or chicken, a glass of wine and only breakfast and supper. I have lost 12Kilos. I needed to lose them and still want to lose more but ....just with a diet change I did that. I'm not big, I don't need big fatty meaty meals all the time or snacks or fizzy sugary drinks. Most of my eating was comfort food anyway.
posted by
Kabu
on August 27, 2007 at 10:56 PM
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posted by
riri0322
on August 27, 2007 at 10:24 PM
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nautikos
"Beef. It's what's for dinner"
posted by
Tattered_Knight
on August 27, 2007 at 9:50 PM
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Naut
Since I don't eat a lot of meat I can't imagine being over weight because of it. I do need to lose about 2 or 4 pounds before winter in order to fit back into my size 4's. I always thought it was exercise and not what you ate so much....
posted by
Offy
on August 27, 2007 at 7:54 PM
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Naut
I believe it is a conspiracy to allow all those growth hormones etc., in the feed for chickens, pork and beef. It is in our dairy too. We are chemical laden without taking it in ourselves. I eat as much fresh vegetables and fruit as is possible. It is great in the summer because of our local growers, but I can't find grass fed beef near me.
posted by
Justi
on August 27, 2007 at 7:49 PM
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