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Ariel,
about my poem...I swallow my pride and liste... first I did give it a lot of thought, and it was not just slapped on the page, and if it gives that impression well then I am not very good. I am no good at the rhythm thing so please whatever bothers you can you please be more specific...You hurt my pride but that does not matter, I am still listening. I accept critcisms so long as you can justify your points. Say why you like or dislike something, gratuitous comments have no value to me. So i listen as long as you explain yourself fully. I write every day because i choose to do so. If the quality varies so be it, but this is my choice, because it forces me to write and think as a form of discipline. I did find your comment a bit harsh but I am still prepared to listen I would hate to miss an opportunity to learn...it depends on what you have to say.
posted by
marieclaire66
on November 6, 2006 at 10:34 AM
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Nautikos
Yes, by all means do share it with your firends. In fact, I would welcome their input.
Thanks for dropping in.
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 11:03 PM
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ariel
I need not tell you that I concur with your view of Islamo-fascism! But I do need to tell you that your poem, properly credited, will go out to some of my friends, if you permit...would you let me know?
posted by
Nautikos
on November 5, 2006 at 4:34 PM
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You're right, Passionflower, we need more sun, let's go!
posted by
Blanche.
on November 5, 2006 at 3:43 PM
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I wanna go to the Andalucians too...
Don't leave me behind...I hate cold, wet climates...very hard on those of us with depression.
posted by
Passionflower
on November 5, 2006 at 3:41 PM
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Oh, wait, MarieClaire, let's have the party in Andalucia at Ariels or
maybe both, start at Tony's and end up in Andalucia..sound good? Ariel is stocking the bar for bloggers, plus it's sunny and I want to be warm.
posted by
Blanche.
on November 5, 2006 at 1:30 PM
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Blanche
Lady Ariela would just roll her eyes.
We've got a vacation house. The link's in my sidebar. Discount for bloggers
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 12:16 PM
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Ariel, lol, what would Lady Ariela say? I'm shocked..no, flattered, lol
Someday, I hope to see Andalucia, there's a villa a friend sent a picture of, which she says is rent out to tourists, where you can sunbathe. Sun, what a concept. it'll be a while till I see more of that, my 46th birthday, alas, tomorrow will be spent in yet another cold, torrential monsoon. sigh.
posted by
Blanche.
on November 5, 2006 at 12:11 PM
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Blanche
I wonder if our comments met for tea and seed cake at some pretty, wayside hostelry.
Or perhaps .... but no, surely! Not at some sleazy rent-by-the-hour motel! Perish the thought!
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 12:06 PM
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LOL, Jinx, Ariel!
posted by
Blanche.
on November 5, 2006 at 12:02 PM
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Blanche
Our comments passed in cyberspace!
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 12:00 PM
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Ariel, as a descendant of a Russian emigre, I still say that I think the
Russians have been tough on the outlying areas, trying to squash rebellion, and insure control, as empires do, but the Chechen response is over the top, to target children in a such a brutal fashion goes against all human decency and the rules of engagement in war.
posted by
Blanche.
on November 5, 2006 at 11:58 AM
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Marieclaire
By being unable to recall the name of the Beslan school, youunwittingly reinforce my point ; which is that although these atrocities receive saturation coverage, they soon slide into obscurity ( The school was simply known as School Number One )
This is of course in no way a cricism of you, for in this regard, our media, by their constant flitting from one sound bite to the other have almost anaesthetised us all to horror.
One wonders what our grandchildren and great grandchildren will think watching old TV programs, where 2,000 people killed in, say, an earthquake, are sandwiched between adverts for beauty products and holiday venues.
Am I alone in the whole world in thinking that maybe we've become ... what shall I say? A bit peculiar, to say the least of it.
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 11:41 AM
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I don't like injustice either, no one does but I fight my own battles to survive and may be help one or two others, that is all I can manage for myself. I am shocked to see the extent of injustice done in the old days and I am glad things have improved somewhat. I also think it is important to look at the good things that happen in the world or we will run ourselves ragged and be discouraged.
posted by
marieclaire66
on November 5, 2006 at 11:07 AM
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Ariel,
The event was well covered (wish I could remember the name of the school). The documentary I saw on the massacre was in depth with full account of what happened as witnessed by survivors. May be you missed it.
Thank you for reading my poems and your positive feedback while remaining honest.
posted by
marieclaire66
on November 5, 2006 at 11:03 AM
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Marieclaire
A powerful spontaneous effort! Thank you.
All my life, I've been driven by a passionate anger against injustice, but common people have no voice ; or if they have, they are not heard.
Nobdoy who was not alive in my youth can possibly imagine the injustices of working class lives. Not the big ones like WWII, but the small, petty deferences that were forced upon them.
Nowadays, one doesn't have to doff one's cap to the boss a hundredth part of what one did in former times. If one doesn't like a job, he can walk off and find another.
For example, British dockworkers would stand outside the gates of the docks, and the overseer would select only a few. It was like a slave market, and those turned away face virtual starvation, or the humiliation of begging money from a heartless bureaucracy. Things only changed at the end of WWII
Well, now I have a voice in Blogit ; a voice that is heard, and maybe influences others to also speak out.
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 3:11 AM
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Blanche
The disgusting part of the atrocity was that it was directed byy Chechens, not at the Russians, but at their neighbours in North Ossetia.
This cowardly scum, just like the IRA, mask their political aims under a cloak of religion. What they're aiming for is a worldwide Caliphate ruled by a merciless, mediaeval sharia law.
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 3:03 AM
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Rumored
Thank you for dropping in.
You are right about the scant coverage of this atrocity in the west.
Just imagine if it had been at say Columbine, or in that Amish school. There would have outage that went on for God knows how long.
This appears to be the thinking of our media intellectual midgets, and we, God help us, make ourselves complicit in their disgustingly lopsided coverage of world events ...
North Ossetia? Chechens? Who cares about them guys in them Godforsaken places that nobody's ever heard of.
But hey, what a scandal about that Mel Gibson. eh? Now there's real story! Gonna milk it for all we can! Gonna run and run.
What will our descendants think of us?
posted by
ariel70
on November 5, 2006 at 2:48 AM
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ariel, thanks for posting this, and for the reminder, as painful as it is
When this massacre occured, I found the media very quiet when it came to any indepth reporting of it...I only saw one very detailed account...B.B.C. if I remember right.
Don't worry about the fallout from your post(s)..let the chips fall where there may....
posted by
Rumor
on November 4, 2006 at 5:34 PM
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Ariel, This was the Russian/Checnyan incident?
Vendettas only spiral upward and escalate. How unbelievably sad that Chechnyan nationalists could coldly kill children, supposedly to get their own freedom. The Russians have been brutal, as have all of our Empires, the British and the American as well. There are no innocents.
posted by
Blanche.
on November 4, 2006 at 3:40 PM
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Ariel,
Such passionate writing, what drives you like that? I wonder...
We all witness
atrocities,
some up close
some from afar
we all react differently
some with passion
some with indifference?
why the difference...
I don't understand
the hand that destroys
the hand that defiles
I just don't understand
Should we cry?
Should we deny?
Should we fight?
Should we decry?
I don't know
what to do
what to say
how to act
all i know
is how to pray
how to love
a little
how to bring
some comfort
some joy
some laughter
somehow
someway
somewhere
someone needs me
that someone
could you him her
or even me
Just give God
a chance
Just give God
a chance
to win a few more hearts
for in Him lies the true victory.
posted by
marieclaire66
on November 4, 2006 at 3:29 PM
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Enjoyed your post....very thought provoking stuff.
Your poem is quite powerful as well...
posted by
Passionflower
on November 4, 2006 at 3:15 PM
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Marieclaire
Just in here for a little while, 'cos it's nearly midnite here.
Thank you for your comment. I am expecting to get accused of racism, bias, writing rubbish, the Seven Plagues of Egypt, causing huricane Katrina.
Not everyone's like you see ; they don't actually read what one writes, they see their own agenda on one's oage, and react accordingly.
However, we shall see!
posted by
ariel70
on November 4, 2006 at 2:55 PM
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Ariel...such atrocity committed in the name of Allah?
Not bad for someone who does not believe in God...I am glad you said my God is a God of love...wonderful.
I remember watching the documentary on what happened as related by the survivors, it was heart breaking. Those people don't have a heart, they could not.
posted by
marieclaire66
on November 4, 2006 at 2:47 PM
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