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Morning Tel. You're right. I know nothing much at all about any of those former battles or indeed why 1941 was the key year in the Second World War.
I do think we should remember rather than forget and even with that we still repeat the same errors.
Did you ever see Shoah, the film. 9 hours at the cinema, but it taught me a good deal more than I knew at the time.
Your penultimate paragraph is very strong. I can't agree with you on 'rabidly racist'. I think it's the misinterpretation of any religion that makes its adherents racist.
Will it be a comma? It will one day. Depends how far into the future you want to step. And Bush himself will be less than a comma - he'll be an umlaut or something.
Very well written, as usual. Looking forward to your war posts and poetry. I'll do some more links for you soon.
Pasta Lego
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on November 3, 2006 at 12:58 AM
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xeno_x
I didn't imply that casualties are unimportant ; the point was that to future generations they will be. The whole ghastly affair will be.
The Iraq war will have no more impact upon the third generation down than the British campaign in Mesopotamia ( Iraq ) in WWI Who knows anything about Ctesiphon or Kut al Amarna now?
If the 60,000 casualties of the first day on the Somme make no impact upon our memories, the great/great great grandchildren of that generation, how much impact will 3,000 casualties in Iraq have on our posterity. None,
Thanks for a thoughtful comment
posted by
ariel70
on November 3, 2006 at 12:02 AM
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Ariel
My knowledge of history is limited but I know that what you are saying in this post is the truth. The things that torture us today will not be the same to future generations.
posted by
BrightIrish
on November 2, 2006 at 8:36 PM
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you are well educated
i remember the WWII battles --
Korea has been well mentioned lately, so these are sort of a reeducation for me.
Nam -- those things resound among those who watched the war.
will this be a mere comma?
to whose mind is it unimportant?
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 2, 2006 at 3:43 PM
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Pat_B
Almost on my way to bed, but saw your comment.
I bet my views on Bush are, if anything, even more scathing than yours, but I was making an historical point. The anguish, the suffering and detah were as horrible and as unbearable for all the comatants and their loved one in all those battles of the past.
But life goes on, and -- maybe rightly -- who thinks of all that, apart from when fools like me prod their memories? And so it will be fifty, a hundred years hence. Our anguish at what is done in our name, grievous as it is to us, will be as dust in the wind to our descendants.
I'm sorry to have aroused your ire, and i sincerely hope that our friendship is intact.
posted by
ariel70
on November 2, 2006 at 2:20 PM
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All those infamous battles, all those wasted glorious young men,
all that loss and grief, all that heart-corrosive hate spent in "good" wars, in facing down the Evil that threatens freedom and democracy. This cannot be compared to the rants of some twit, some inflamed pimple on the naked ass of soul-less war profiteers, who sends another crop of mother's sons and daughters into the maw of death where something evil may be, but not the true evil that deserves mighty and terrible retribution. His war may be a comma - but his missteps are the stuff of legend.
Oh, my, Ariel, you do tend to get my dander up... :)
posted by
Pat_B
on November 2, 2006 at 2:12 PM
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