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Hi Tony yepa yepa I do
Don't read apples and don't eat books 
posted by
lionladroar
on October 14, 2006 at 12:13 PM
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You've got me thinking now, and that's always risky
I don't know if it's consciousness that's the problem. Perhaps our minds will never be large enough to see and understand all of nature, but it would be sadder if we never tried. Have you seen Ypunday's haiku blog yet?
posted by
mneme
on October 14, 2006 at 1:14 AM
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I meant apologise - sorry.
posted by
mneme
on October 14, 2006 at 1:03 AM
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Buddha's on it
I came across this quote today and thought it was quite a good one, since we're philosophising... I apoligise to anyone who might find my header offensive, sensitive as I am to religious difference:
"Your work is to discover your world and then with all your heart to give yourself to it" - Buddha
posted by
mneme
on October 14, 2006 at 1:02 AM
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Mavro.
It is an honour and a joy for me to be "deluded", it is better than despair...
posted by
marieclaire66
on October 13, 2006 at 1:56 PM
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Tony, I agree...
Faith takes on some rigid form that is so ridiculous and harmful at times, it puts people off or worse still, it hurts... Never mind faith, if we don't live by loving standards, then faith is utterly useless, it is a way of life not a rigid set of beliefs you adhere to.
I am probably the first hypocrite on the planet, I admit it and I don't mind saying it so I remain humble.
posted by
marieclaire66
on October 13, 2006 at 1:55 PM
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thanks everyone - now to today's effort - and then... browsing
posted by
Antonionioni
on October 13, 2006 at 12:54 PM
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Let me think about happiness,
EXCELLENT WRITING
posted by
star4sky5
on October 13, 2006 at 12:34 PM
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Tony, I listened to a radio piece about Joe Strummer last night.
They played a bit of an old interview where he said: "I'm just about clever enough to know how stupid I am."
Mother Nature knows best and will sort things out. We might not be in the next round.
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on October 13, 2006 at 8:59 AM
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Great work...
posted by
_Symphony_
on October 13, 2006 at 4:35 AM
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Marieclaire.
I agree that to have nowhere to run is scary and that is why many people rely on faith, but this doesn't mean that faith has any intrinsic value other than the delusion of the individual who holds it.
posted by
Mavro
on October 13, 2006 at 1:33 AM
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Hi - thanks for commenting!
Any little disagreements just show the different responses I hinted at before as to how people cope with life, when they are stuck with such a thinking, pondering, questioning brain... People respond in different ways. Faith is understandable in its very basic raison d'etre, its just the rigid forms it sometimes takes in the major religions with their power structures that alienate some.
posted by
Antonionioni
on October 13, 2006 at 12:40 AM
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well written
posted by
star4sky5
on October 12, 2006 at 8:06 PM
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Mavro you just contradicting yourself...
In one breath you say that faith does not work and yet admit it is a defence mechanism that helps relieve our ignorance and suffering, well anything that relieves suffering is good enough for me, call it what you will, the bottom line is that humans are helpless creatures who need something much bigger than themselves in order to cope with life. You can choose to struggle on your own, or call on help and why not? Is there any shame in that? the sooner humans admit their powerless, the better, but it is too scary to admit if you have nowhere to turn.
posted by
marieclaire66
on October 12, 2006 at 4:28 PM
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I think it is the lack consciousness... the false ego and all it's 'wants,'
...like an irresponsible child, brat... makes a mess of it all...
posted by
MasonGarrett
on October 12, 2006 at 2:51 PM
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Wisest is the man who knows he does not know.
Ofcourse your right, just exist that's the answer. The problem is that we're so bloody self conscious. Again your right about the fact that we know bollock all and that it is our destiny to thrash about in the darkness, unknowing. The problem is that we know this, or some of us do, and faith doesn't work because we know that it is a defence mechanism of humanity that allows us to ease the pain of our own insignificance.
Well done Tony you've got me ranting again.
posted by
Mavro
on October 12, 2006 at 2:39 PM
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Thanks MC and Mystic.
Same as you, I feel it is a very difficult area. What does anyone really know, and do we find the answers we want to hear, rather than the truth? Acceptance means not questioning, which in turn means not finding answers. I'm not advocating this as a way of life, our minds are too highly evolved for that. But maybe meditation, yoga, some religious practices, even becoming wrapped up in work, sport or art, are all ways of trying to get back some peace. Even getting drunk or on drugs, arguably. Everyone tries to escape from those tormenting questions in their own way.
posted by
Antonionioni
on October 12, 2006 at 2:29 PM
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tony
i think the happier one becomes , the more comfortable they become with their own and others ignorance. There is a great deal to be said for acceptence, and faith. We don't have the answers to the big questions and I don't think we are supposed to...not right now anyway. Thought provoking post
posted by
MysticGmekeepr
on October 12, 2006 at 1:14 PM
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tony--- Asking the right questions is the most important ...
sometimes ignorance is bliss. Some important questions pertain to ourselves, questioning our motives, whether they are pure or not, questioning our attitudes. It is more important to have a positive attitude than question and worry about everything. In a way, we are the ignorant lizzard in the sun and are powerless to answer fundamental questions, such as why is there evil in the world? why do bad things happen to good people and good things to good people. No one can answer that one fully. Other questions we can answer partially. It is all very well asking questions, but are we prepared to listen for the answers? too busy questioning to enjoy life, and listen to what God has to say. He is the one with the wise answers if we know how to listen. It is important to be alert and receptive. For every question, we want an answer, or do we? sometimes we only want to hear what we would like to hear, and we are not truly receptive. Asking the right pertinent questions and be prepared to listen to the answer. This is the intelligence and wisdom of living. More importantly, love is the ultimate answer and every thing we do or ask or give should be centered around our desire to love others and ourselves. Questioning is not just an intellectual game of trivial pursuit. God Bless.
posted by
marieclaire66
on October 12, 2006 at 12:41 PM
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