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Sannhet, some people are in grade school; some are in college.
Sometimes it seems an awful lot are in middle-school...

posted by Ciel on June 27, 2006 at 8:13 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel -
Unfortunately, too many people are afraid of being wrong, so they never question anything.

posted by sannhet on June 27, 2006 at 6:43 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel
I certainly have plans on reading a lot of your past posts.  It's hard to find people who think along the same lines about certain things.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 26, 2006 at 6:06 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel, the urge arises to write volumes in response to your last comment......instead, I'll simply say this.....  ......Samhain_Moon

posted by syzygy on June 26, 2006 at 10:02 AM | link to this | reply

Samhain Moon, I am glad to report, I am back on my own PC this morning, and

very glad of it,too!  Though it was kinda fun to thumb my nose at limitation, in a small, nonsensical way...

Thanks for your very kind words in your previous comment.  I appreciate it very much!  The understanding I pursue has been a life-long imperative, that and finding true romance.  I finally gave up on the one, but the Universe is still there, still winking and beckoning...

posted by Ciel on June 26, 2006 at 9:48 AM | link to this | reply

Sunnybeach--

The 'what if...' questions that arise as we confront  new information, with new implications, and new explications, for that matter, are dazzling!  I hope you will take a peek at some of my other entries in this blog, and tell me how they fit or affect your own model--which, so far as I've seen it, makes me applaud your line of questioning.  You've of transcended the boundaries of the basic teaching that beyond a certain point of awareness and understanding no longer makes sense.  You've stepped away from the simplistic metaphors, and are reaching for something more. 

I agree that God and Science can't be reconciled if we disregard common sense.  And in a whole Universe, that reconciliation is a necessity.

posted by Ciel on June 26, 2006 at 9:42 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel, Thanks for the scoop. Yes, that is weird about the Mac. There were any number of theories about why you were doing that as I moved up your 'Jacob's Ladder' for the surprise ending. LOL. Samhain_Moon

posted by syzygy on June 25, 2006 at 10:44 PM | link to this | reply

It really makes you think...
I don't believe Jesus have been "The Son of God", so to speak.  No more than anyone else is anyway.
Divine certainly, but a divinity that we all can ultimately acheive.

This brings an interesting difference from what's in the Bible about the actual reason surrounding his death.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 25, 2006 at 10:23 PM | link to this | reply

(On a Mac, can't post more than subject line today... Weird, eh?)

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:19 PM | link to this | reply

In yours, they made him bring the kid back to life. So the tale goes.

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply

so the other children would play with him...

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:17 PM | link to this | reply

called Mary Mild abt how he built a bridge of sunlight over rainpuddles

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:17 PM | link to this | reply

about his delinquent childhood-- my favorite was made into a folk song

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:16 PM | link to this | reply

Samhain Moon, that story from the Book of Nicodemus, is one of several

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 7:15 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel, I am most impressed by your commitment to and relentless search for truth. I read very little any more. About all I can handle is the daily verses which appear in my blog "Sanathana Dharma." Maybe I 'read myself out' in my youth. I do recall perusing a little of the Gnostic gospels a few years ago. One parable stands out. Well, actually it was not a parable, it was story from Jesus' youth. I loved it. It was fascinating. I don't recall the specifics - I'm taking liberties here - some parents of a local child confronted Mary and Joseph and complained that the young Jesus had killed their child. Apparently, Jesus was really angry with the kid and 'withered' him - i.e., killed him. I always thought that that story must have been what eventually made it into the Bible as the withering of the fig tree. I know I have the facts skewed but, the essence of the story is there. I hope we hear more from you on the Gospel of Judas. I've read a little of this and Judas and the role he actually played are fascinating. Samhain_Moon

posted by syzygy on June 25, 2006 at 4:41 PM | link to this | reply

TVblogger, The Gnostic Bible is on my acquisition list--

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 11:08 AM | link to this | reply

mneme, I daresay offspring created in the image of that particular one

posted by Ciel on June 25, 2006 at 11:04 AM | link to this | reply

Here's a couple more....
books you might want to check out.  I've found them interesting.  One is "The Hidden Gospel" by Neil Douglas-Klotz.  It takes what few texts are available in Aramaic (typically gnostic texts) which is the language Jesus actually spoke in.  Then they try to do a more faithful translation within the context of the times.  It's a fascinating alternate to familiar passages and paints the picture of a very different mission.

Another is "The Lost Years of Jesus."  I'm more sceptical of this book because of the author (leader of a cult-like group in Montana - Church Universal & Triumphant) but the information inside is intriguing.  It presents the possibility and some evidence that in the years of Jesus' life between 13-32 he was travelling throughout Asia, spending time studying the more esoteric spirtual beliefs in India, Nepal and Tibet.  Check 'em out, I think they would interest you.


posted by TVBlogger on June 25, 2006 at 6:07 AM | link to this | reply

That's got me thinking...
 If your description is accurate, I have met a few earthly "Yahwehs" in my time... just try disagreeing with one.

posted by mneme on June 25, 2006 at 1:57 AM | link to this | reply