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It is great on your part to share Biblical lessons even in these days with the world.

posted by afzal50 on May 19, 2006 at 6:15 AM | link to this | reply

Manda,

Thanks for sharing...I have so missed your posts. Though I'm not back at Blogit on a regular basis just yet, I wanted to visit one of my favorites.

My thoughts on being submissive...To me being submissive is a submission to the will of God as it relates to fulfilling the purpose God has for us as a wife and mother. Blessings!

posted by ms_bradrock on May 18, 2006 at 10:08 AM | link to this | reply

I'm sorry, Manda Lee, I can't agree with you here about wifely submissiveness.  I can't imagine a God that would endorse one person's submissiveness to another's wiles, whether in marriage, business or friendship.  I imagine commonality, respect and consideration to be more holy than submissiveness.  If someone wants to give up his or her will to God, that's one thing.  But it's another thing entirely to give up one's will to another person, an act which seems to go against our God-given abilities to think and reason, opine and compromise.  If women were to submit to their husbands, what would we have to teach each other?  One side is always commanding, while the other is always bowing and scraping. 

posted by SilverMoon7 on May 17, 2006 at 4:59 AM | link to this | reply

SAILOR,

He sure would.

posted by Amanda__ on May 16, 2006 at 3:04 PM | link to this | reply

INTERESTING QUESTIONS RAISED
I AM NOT SURE JESUS WOULD RECOGNISE TODAY'S INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE, BUT HE WOULD KNOW LOVE ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

posted by FARSAILOR on May 16, 2006 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply

A-and-B,
Harmony and respect are the most important things in a successful marriage.

posted by Amanda__ on May 16, 2006 at 2:25 PM | link to this | reply

Harmony and respect works.

posted by A-and-B on May 16, 2006 at 2:12 PM | link to this | reply

FactorFiction,
You are right.  Today husbands and wives make decisions together.  The role of women was more submissive then.

posted by Amanda__ on May 16, 2006 at 10:54 AM | link to this | reply

See now I always thought of
Biblical "submission" to the husband as being Biblical slang for "have sex with..."  Because, other than that, there is no justification for submission in my mind. Indeed, wifely  submissiveness does not attract  most mentally healthy men. Perhaps it was different in the past.

posted by FactorFiction on May 16, 2006 at 9:16 AM | link to this | reply

Wiley,
We should always submit to the Lord, first and foremost.

posted by Amanda__ on May 16, 2006 at 8:11 AM | link to this | reply

MandaLee

I think there is more to Biblical knowledge than just reading and quoting passages my friend.

For me, some parts of the Bible were written by men not inspired by God but by themselves so they could gain an upper hand in the world.

I do not believe for an instant, that the God of my understanding, ever meant for one half of His creation to submit to anybody but Him.

posted by WileyJohn on May 16, 2006 at 8:06 AM | link to this | reply

Dylan,

You are right.  Submission is quite a tough question and balance these days.  It seems to me that a wife must trust in the Lord and her heart to decide when it is appropriate to submit to her husband.

I appreciate your insightful and thought provoking comments.

posted by Amanda__ on May 16, 2006 at 6:23 AM | link to this | reply

Correction
"husband's" should be "husbands'"(note apostrophe after the s). I was not referring to polygamy, which would indeed mean women (plural) submitting to their husband's (singular possessive) needs. 

posted by Dyl_Pickle on May 16, 2006 at 5:53 AM | link to this | reply

I find the issue of wives submitting to their husbands

among the most challenging philosophical questions.

If submission means obedience, then I worry that many women would feel pressured to go along with their husband's harebrained or selfish ideas.

If I may make a completely unsubstantiated observation, men, unguided by women, can make some really foolish decisions. It appears to me that women are often more likely to be empathetic and considerate of other people's needs.

I think of the optimal marriages as being more-or-less equal in terms of decision making, between wife and husband. (This is supported by research done by psychologist David Myers in Psychology, 2004.) Perhaps there is a way to make that consistent with the wifely submission principle, but it doesn't seem apparent to me.

posted by Dyl_Pickle on May 16, 2006 at 5:51 AM | link to this | reply