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Ariel70 -
My take - we are actually made perfect - full of unconditional love. However, we miss the mark (the true meaning of the Hebrew word "hamartano", or sin) with regard to our divinity and therefore pursue things that try to fill the hole created when we miss the mark.
posted by
sannhet
on December 8, 2005 at 1:20 PM
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Flame
Many thanks for your continuing support. It is greatly appreciated, I assure you.
It is as it should be that you, a Christian, and I an atheist, can agree to disagree in a spirit of amity and mutual respect. Would that it were so always, everwhere, and with everyone!
posted by
ariel70
on December 8, 2005 at 5:54 AM
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xeno
Thanks for calling in.
Er .... yes, it was so far off the track, I got lost in the jungleLOL
I am aware of Asimov's robot laws, but what isn't so well known as the one that he would have included, if he'd thought of it, that is ...
" Windows will on no account cause humans hair-ripping stress and trauma, by crashing, losing work, nor perform any act of commission or omission to disturb human tranquility."
What one may invent for a benign purpose, another can modify fo a malign purpose. And the famous bottom line is that we all know how reliable computer technology is, don't we?
One little chip failure, and your cuddly lawn mower becomes the neighbourhood serial killer. Welcome to the future, dude.
posted by
ariel70
on December 8, 2005 at 5:50 AM
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Tiel
Know the feelin'! Very well!
posted by
ariel70
on December 8, 2005 at 5:43 AM
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Babe
Thankx for dropping in. What???? You've tried to discuss free will with Jehovah's Wintesses??? What are you, some kinda masochist? LOL
posted by
ariel70
on December 8, 2005 at 5:41 AM
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If I am not your greatest fan in this place, I think I am amongst the top ten. I have read through and through your post and found it very logical. But as Christian myself, there are points which you raised that we can agree on. One of them are Lab stuffs. Anyway, I am not going to force you to change the course you have taken. But above all, I will remain your greatest admirer.
posted by
Flame-thrower
on December 8, 2005 at 3:18 AM
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Ariel
SORRY! I had also just finished reading Flithpath's post also. Knew I'd goofed the minute I hit "Add comment" button.
posted by
Tiel
on December 7, 2005 at 2:44 PM
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Flightpath
If Atlantis is not a myth and truly existed, it fell into the sea because it created "Things"---Cyborgs?
posted by
Tiel
on December 7, 2005 at 2:42 PM
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free will?
well yes -- we all have free will - it is a substantial part of us.
however, it was not a part of our "creation" -- as fundamentalists would suppose.
it is just part of the human mind -- we have the freedom to make choices -- and this is not exclusive to humans -- any animals you interact with -- you will find they have a mind of their own -- there's free will working there too -- so did God give Ariala's tabby cats free will just as he gave humans?
i say hardly.
we are given the ablity to ascertain what is best for us and to take appropriate action.
we are also pretty stubborn -- when someone presses us to do something, we have a penchant toward adverse reaction. we have a self-image -- others do not encroach upon the self too much.
defensive mechanism
inherited, not created.
evolved, not specially inserted into the human psyche.
we've got to see the cosmos around us in an entirely different light --
i call it an organism -- each of us is a cell in that organism, learning to become more a part of it -- we are not subservient to it; neither is it subservient to us.
we are part of it and it is part of us.
is that getting off the track enough?
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 7, 2005 at 2:21 PM
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I would suppose that any type of A.I. will be subject to Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics, the first and primary of which is "Robots shall do no harm to humans>" or something like that.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 7, 2005 at 2:12 PM
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I've attempted to discuss human free will with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
posted by
babe_rocks
on December 7, 2005 at 1:49 PM
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