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Now, now, DamonLeigh, calm down. The war on terror is alive and well in
the American conscious. The GOP and the Bush administration is now pushing the dissemination of democracy twist which coincides with the administration's efforts to fight the terrorists 'there' now instead of 'here' later. The problem with that argument is that they are fighting few terrorists and many insurgents, which, unbeknownst to the snout-led American public, are not one and the same (although they can be in some instances). Most of the rebels and insurgents in Iraq are mujahideen (freedom fighters) fighting jihad or for the liberation of Iraq from the imperialists. At worst, they are Sunni guerillas and ex-Saddam-ites who are fighting for the reinstallation of Sunni control.
Islamic terrorists are out bombing London and Madrid and other locations, as well as targets in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sorry to burst your bubble, DamonLeigh, but the large number of the American public dissatisfied with the handling of the war are ignorant of the war on terror, what the stakes are, who the terrorists actually are, and how dismal we are doing with regard to said war. In fact, DamonLeigh, I'll bet if you ask the average American who the terrorists are, they'll tell you it is the Iraqis and the Afghanis and Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, if they can even tell you that.
No, the large number of Americans unhappy about Iraq is mostly due to the rising number of deaths amongst our troops. At least their hearts are in the right place...
posted by
saul_relative
on August 13, 2005 at 4:17 PM
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OJ was guilty? NO way! Unfortunately, Itlmac70, 20/20 hindsight is always
a game well played. But 20/20 foresight is rarely heeded by the powers that be when it runs counter to their agenda.
posted by
saul_relative
on August 13, 2005 at 4:02 PM
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That's cool, StrickGold, someone has to make up the other 39%.
posted by
saul_relative
on August 13, 2005 at 3:59 PM
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Point taken, JJ. Regardless of the polls, which are driven by the media, I
find the job being done in Iraq a lesson in how not to invade and reconstruct an infrastructure. I don't like the way the entire bunch is handling the operation. For the most part, I believe the military is probably doing its best within the parameters of what the state department and the executive branch allows them.
And you are right: basicly, it's all about money in the end, from the media to the president to Haliburton to the Iraqi constitutional convention -- just look how the Shiites reapportioned Iraq to where they control the oilfields.
posted by
saul_relative
on August 13, 2005 at 3:58 PM
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Yes, It Appears...
...that the American public is finally beginning to wake up to the realities of this phoney war on terror.
About bloody time, too!
D
posted by
DamonLeigh
on August 13, 2005 at 4:28 AM
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I'm almost positive...
That at least 61% of Americans thought OJ was guilty too, but alas, apparently they were wrong too 
! In any case, when it's all in the history books, the whole event will look completely different, and the ability to look logically at the entire picture will be easier found.
ltlmac70
posted by
superflymom119
on August 12, 2005 at 9:56 PM
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Don't COUNT ME IN THAT 61%
posted by
StrickGold
on August 12, 2005 at 9:50 PM
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Saul,
I think that the media, which obviously determines public opinion, oversimplifies the entire matter. Their intention is to stir up a bigger audience. You keep hearing ''the whole thing is about money.'' Money is simply an extension of bartering. That doesn't eliminate greed, but since we all screeching about MONEY, I think we need to examine the motivation of the media. Sure, they are all in a crusade for compassion, justice, etc, etc, etc. Cut off their profiteering and paychecks. How long will the crusade go on?
The war in Iraq is not simply a matter of knocking a few Moslems around. The potential for social destruction that terrorists, Moslem or not, represent goes far beyond the combat areas of Iraq. That potential for social destruction, including the economics and technology upon which the entire planet depends, is the true issue. What will happen on ''the night that the lights went out on planet earth?'' We all need to look beyond the ends of our noses.
JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
on August 12, 2005 at 9:50 PM
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