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Temple
That all makes sense to me.  Thanks....

posted by Lensman on June 15, 2005 at 10:04 AM | link to this | reply

Lensmen, I understand that.
Don't feel by my protection of Rachel that you cannot speak freely with me.  If you are wrong, I might tell you the correct situation, but I will not be angry.  That person in her comments was hurtful, I thought, to someone I love.  So, this is much different.  I write about what I've experienced in part to educate, so feel free to ask questions, make mistakes, say the wrong thing.  It's all welcome.  I only ask for sensitivity and tact, as this is my actual life here and not a story.  (Not always the case on Blogit.)  As far as The Outsiders...well, that is a term I used to describe myself and Michael (Unidentified Hacker) because he and I both relate to having something you can never fully explain to anyone who hasn't had it, or something like it.  It creates frustrations in even the best of circumstances. 

posted by Temple on June 14, 2005 at 7:11 PM | link to this | reply

Temple
I had read your "Outsiders" post, and I guess I borrowed that term in the sense that I would comment only as far as I felt qualified to.  You've experienced some stuff that I have managed to escape in life.  Often when I comment on things I haven't experienced myself, I end up getting things wrong, which isn't surprising, I guess.  Anyway, I enjoyed reading

posted by Lensman on June 14, 2005 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

Lensman

Outsiders?  I'm not sure what you mean.  You are welcome to comment freely, and I'm sorry if I gave you any other idea.  Yes, it does hurt....but they don't believe that I should feel that.  It's an odd position for them to be in. 

Hockey!  Yes, looks like we might actually have a season coming up....hopefully the cap won't take my whole team. :(  Thanks for reading and commenting.

posted by Temple on June 14, 2005 at 1:52 AM | link to this | reply

Temple
I can't imagine a parent letting his/her child know they weren't wanted.  They must know how much that would hurt.  Well, I have a feeling I'm one of those "outsiders" you mention, so I won't comment further on that.    Anyway, nice to have another honorary citizen for Canada   Go Avalanche (and Canucks)

posted by Lensman on June 13, 2005 at 10:37 PM | link to this | reply

Temple,

I always say I am Pro-Life, Pro-Choice.  I think accidental pregnancies are abhorable, but that it is still a woman's right to choose.

I am more of a land baby that likes to be around the water, say like on a boat or a raft, but I also loved your picture of the sunset!

posted by WHAMENATOR on April 15, 2005 at 3:42 AM | link to this | reply

offbeatpub...

Yes, it's funny how we can be so progressive and yet so stuck at the same time.  I wonder if we'll ever solve it.

I am a water baby, too...I always say the ocean is my church.  Mission bay is where I sit and think when I need quiet.  I write there, too.  It's amazing the effect just the smell the ocean can have on me....I'm sure you know.  Thanks for reading. :)

posted by Temple on April 15, 2005 at 3:30 AM | link to this | reply

Temple

Abortion is clearly a very personal choice. I can not believe it is still an issue in today's world. Everyone needs to stay out of our bedrooms and out of our wombs...

PS. I like your picture of the ocean. We used to go to Dohey and Hunnington Beach, Mission Bay is still one of my favorite places... I am a child of the ocean, it is my Mother.

posted by Offy on April 15, 2005 at 3:22 AM | link to this | reply

Happy Birthday. Many happy returns of the day.

posted by A-and-B on April 7, 2005 at 5:13 AM | link to this | reply

Sometimes I wonder why people think all these unwanted kids are so important before they are born, but by the time they are 18 or so and have turned into unwanted adults we can hate them, lock them up, push for the death penalty...and how many people who choose abortion do it because they see life as a hopeless option?  For themselves, or for those potential children?  I wish there were better choices available.

posted by DarrkeThoughts on April 6, 2005 at 8:55 AM | link to this | reply

Temple,
Very well put, dear.

I've probably already said this elsewhere - my PERSONAL belief is that abortion is wrong in most cases. However, there are millions who believe otherwise and it is not my place to tell them they are wrong. (Maybe they aren't wrong. Who am I to say?)

My belief is that life begins when the brain is viable, at around 6 or 7 months' gestation. However, the intent for life to occur is present at conception - again, according to my personal belief. I truly resent people of "faith" writing their "beliefs" into laws that everyone else must abide by.

Anyway, great post of your comment. It's good to read you :)

posted by myrrhage_ on April 4, 2005 at 2:20 AM | link to this | reply

Temple, so very true. It is
interesting how a party spear headed by the Texacutioner is so pro-life. If they were christians, they would know Jesus would call them hypocrites. Quality of life does matter. I told my family if they ever did to me what Terry Sciavos parents did to her, I would haunt them like Amityville when I did die. Take care Temple :)

posted by Flumpystalls3000 on April 3, 2005 at 8:45 AM | link to this | reply

Wiley
I know you care, and it's good we can adopt each other.  Found families are the best kind. :)

posted by Temple on April 2, 2005 at 3:01 PM | link to this | reply

Temple
A good post, a grand picture you posted and a lovely picture of your mind. And you know, I do care about you in that you are another of my adopted daughter's right luv?

posted by WileyJohn on April 2, 2005 at 9:47 AM | link to this | reply

Exactly Reni...
Sometimes it just is.  Having the analytical mind I do (hence why I chose law school) it is work for me not to wander down the "why" road.  You were a Buddhist in Thailand?  You need to write all these stories!  I want to hear them all!  I've had quite a life, but it all took place in two states. :)  I'm so curious now as to why you didn't want to practice Buddhism anymore....I know, it's whatever works for us as individuals, but I am still curious.

posted by Temple on March 30, 2005 at 11:04 PM | link to this | reply

It's true, but I firmly believe that the universe and God have a reason for
all that happens.  Like you, I used to be a Buddhist.  As a matter of fact, I lived for a short time as a nun in a Buddhist temple in Thailand.  Okay, I was only a nun's apprentice, but I got to wear the cool white robes!  Anyway, I've incorporated many of my Buddhist beliefs into my Christianity...Where was I going?...Oh, yeah, back to the whole universe thing.  Sometimes we need to spend less time questioning "why" things happen and just accept that they "are".  You "are".  For whatever reason you've been chosen to be here, and I imagine you're making the best of it.  That's all any of us can ask for, I think.

posted by Renigade on March 30, 2005 at 7:06 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks Reni... :)

It's all so complicated, isn't it?  Like, well, it made me who I am....so that's good.  But, I got off lucky because sometimes it's so much worse for other kids.  Plus, it's so very hard.  Not every woman should be a mother, that's just a fact. 

posted by Temple on March 29, 2005 at 8:55 PM | link to this | reply

Sad. I'm glad you're here, though.

posted by Renigade on March 29, 2005 at 7:52 AM | link to this | reply

HG, yes, you are right about the dark times...
They still come and go.  I worked on cases where children were beaten to death because, althought they had access to abortion, there were other reasons they didn't have choice.  Or if not beaten to death, beaten often, neglected.  Horrible things.  It took me most of my life to come to terms, and it's hard to say....yeah, I wish she hadn't had me....but I do say, that not all people should be parents.  This is truth to me.  Thanks for your sweet words though.  My Mom doesn't know me really, and I think she's missing out on some good things. :)

posted by Temple on March 28, 2005 at 7:57 PM | link to this | reply

I'm with gypsy - I think it ended up being a good thing that your mother didn't have a choice.  Though I know there have no doubt been very dark times when it must have been very tough for you to see it that way.  I'm glad you can see it that way now.    

posted by Holy_Grail on March 28, 2005 at 7:40 PM | link to this | reply

It's all about freedom.
Right Jimmy?  Otherwise, there's no point.

posted by Temple on March 28, 2005 at 7:28 PM | link to this | reply

I'm with you here baby...
choice is the most important thing any of us ever have, and the only thing they can never really take away, but I am adamantly and violently opposed to any attempt to circumscribe my choices or those of anyone else...

posted by jimmy68 on March 28, 2005 at 6:35 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks gypsygirl. :)

Took me a lot of years, but I'm glad I'm here now, too. :)

posted by Temple on March 28, 2005 at 5:48 PM | link to this | reply

Temple.. well, I'm glad you're here. Hugs

posted by RedHeadedGypsy on March 28, 2005 at 5:37 PM | link to this | reply

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