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So, due to past traumatisng experiences you can'ta ccept satire
posted by
adventurer02
on September 30, 2015 at 2:43 AM
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Belle, silly or absurd is one thing...but would you still enjoy it if you
were called a scammer or a griper?
posted by
Julia.
on August 4, 2004 at 10:11 PM
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Many people have had satire bypasses
It is a much misunderstood style of writing. It should be used sparingly and only to brilliant effect.
Personally I enjoy it. I believe to say that it only apply when you know someone is to miss the point. It is merely a device to get across a mood or atmosphere. It is a way perhaps of suggesting that something is silly or absurd without saying it baldly.
posted by
beachbelle
on August 4, 2004 at 9:51 PM
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qwerty, thanks for sharing your unique perspective. I can't say that I
agree with the way you look at it, but that's okay. As for "Everyone enjoys a good joke at someone else's expense," this I can say is just not true, because I don't, and I know others who don't. Maybe a LOT of people do, but not everyone. And about this: "Who cares what my opinion of you is besides me?"--my problem is that
I care, I've always cared WAY too much what others thought of me. But I know exactly where that comes from, and so does everyone who has read my blogs these past few wseeks. Thanks for commenting!
posted by
Julia.
on August 4, 2004 at 7:56 AM
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Ms Quirky
As you might have guessed, I don't have a problem with satire. Is it mean-spirited? Almost always. Would I be upset if someone satirized me? Nah. Think about it. People are trying to get laughs from mocking your work. That means your work is getting doubly exposed, and should it be the case that you are a good sport about it and let it roll off, might mean that your work gets read even more.
Everyone enjoys a good joke at someone else's expense. Maybe this time it's you, maybe next time somebody else. It's not necessarily a "personal" thing, it's just the way it is.
Even if the words I utter are, "Quirky, you are one fucked up broad with too many cats and a crazzzzzy brother," they are, after all, only words. Who cares what my opinion of you is besides me? How does it affect you about what I think of you? Is it going to make you stop paying all your bills? Is it going to change how you interact with your friends? No? Then why let it be anything other than a group of words?
posted by
qwertyui
on August 4, 2004 at 6:29 AM
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Spitfire, I agree. I told Talion that as well, it was a perfect analogy.
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 10:55 PM
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Quirks, I must say that I absolutely think what Talion commented was
truly a perfect comment reflecting this blog. Most of the time it is humorous when someone jokes around or is sarcastic toward another...IF they know the person. Otherwise, it is inappropriate, sometimes just plain rude, and often quite hurtful.
posted by
SpitFire70
on August 3, 2004 at 10:49 PM
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Cool deal. It's good to understand things. I've learned a little from this post, myself. It is all about perspective. I don't get a lot of folks jokes, but maybe if I look at them from a different angle, I might find them funny.
posted by
Kay-Ren
on August 3, 2004 at 8:19 PM
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Kay, I like that way of looking at it. One thing though:
Sometimes I don't find it particularly *hurtful* but I just don't find it funny, either. A lot of people laughed at the satirizations, though, so I know they did find them funny. This makes me wonder, what is WRONG with you that you don't think that is funny? So I wrote this post, and now I understand why I don't see the humor.
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 7:58 PM
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Quirky, I totally understand your feelings, but when people write to hurt other Bloggers it is a power struggle. The bad guy is trying to make their intended victim dance to their tune and to make other Blogges notice them. I have learned to look at it as a game of chess.
The bad guy moves his pieces, his hurtful words, to trap me. If I fall for his trap then I loose one of my pieces. He’s hurt me and maybe ruined some of my good feelings for this place or what I wrote.
If I laugh at his trap for the clumsy attempt at garnering attention at my expense, then I have changed his trap for me into a trap for him. I play my pieces, my words, making sure that all my pieces are covered. He will either stop playing or he will become angrier. Angry people play their pieces stupidly. Then it is just a matter of time before I have captured all of his pieces and he is no longer on the board.
I hope this perspective helps.
posted by
Kay-Ren
on August 3, 2004 at 7:45 PM
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Wiley, so you're saying that you never did find a way to grow thicker skin,
you just don't have as many people who can get through the thin skin??
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 6:50 PM
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T99, that sounds like good advice. You can be the Thin-Skin spokesperson!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 6:48 PM
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Curly, just between us...trust NO ONE!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 6:46 PM
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Whammie, good one. I'm going to use that for the Thin-Skin brochure.
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 6:46 PM
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Quirky
Great blog
I learned after MANY years of psychotherapy, that I had to find a way to grow a thicker skin. I identify with you tremendously.
Well, 26 years later, I am still thin skinned, but I see fewer people so I don't hurt so badly. Hmmmm, not sure that's an answer but there ya are luv.
posted by
WileyJohn
on August 3, 2004 at 6:39 PM
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You have to have pretty big cojones to tell the dictionary people they're WRONG about words.
"but I would like to develop a "thicker skin." Do you know how one goes about that?? 
"
Fake it til you make it.
posted by
Tamara99
on August 3, 2004 at 5:29 PM
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I am thrilled to be accepted as a member........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello. My name is Whammie. I am a blogger, and I have a Thin Skin. I am very afraid of and get very hurt by rejection! Why do so many people satisfy themselves by being cruel to others?
posted by
WHAMENATOR
on August 3, 2004 at 4:41 PM
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Quirky,
I know! Imagine my surprise when I found this out. Now I don't know who to trust. I mean, if you can't trust Webster's, who can you trust?
posted by
Curly-Jo
on August 3, 2004 at 4:25 PM
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Whammie, you DID say you wanted to join, so you
cannot recant now that your membership has been confirmed!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:24 PM
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curly, say it isn't so! ARRGH! My friend Webster
will be really, really upset!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:23 PM
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Goodness, I am not sure if this is good or bad!!!!!!!
I have been accepted as a Member of the Thin-Skinned Club!!!!
Well, I feel accepted, so I will call it a good thing!
Whammie 
posted by
WHAMENATOR
on August 3, 2004 at 4:20 PM
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Interesting you should mention Webster, Quirky.
I just took a University English class and quoted Webster's for the usage of a word in reference to plagiarism. I was told that dictionaries only give suggested usages and that they can be wrong. Go figure!
posted by
Curly-Jo
on August 3, 2004 at 4:18 PM
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Whammie, almost forgot--Welcome to the Thin-Skin Club!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:16 PM
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Talion--bingo! That does make a world of difference. A good friend
could say to me, "Oh, you scammer!" and I would not get upset, because I would know they didn't really think that or feel that way about me. Excellent analogy. And I do think "busted" is the right word!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:14 PM
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Quirky,
We have known each other for years, and the doctor knows I was being sarcastic. If we call of sick, we have to go to The Medical Unit, to the city doctor, with our medical paperwork, and get a return slip to go back to work. She knows I am disgruntled, and she just laughed. We both laughed. She is a Good Woman, and I really like her.
The last time, she told me that I have in fact been wronged, and "don't get mad, get even!"
But I know better than to fuel my psyche with Negativity!
Don't worry, I am a little down, but I am not suicidal. And anyway, by the time I packed and labelled all of my stuff, I would be far to exhausted to kill myself!!!!!
Whammie
posted by
WHAMENATOR
on August 3, 2004 at 4:12 PM
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curly, tell that to my good friend webster...
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:12 PM
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Quirk
When I was in the fifth grade, one day during recess, I was joking around with the guys from my class and a few others as well. One from my class said a string of horrible things about my mother. It was funny, so I laughed. Another guy that wasn't in my class called me four-eyes and it made me so mad that I busted his lip. (Yes, I know it should be burst, but you don't burst lips. You bust them.) Later, after explaining all of this to the principal, he asked me why I hit the second kid but not the first one.
"Because he doesn't know me," I replied.
posted by
Talion
on August 3, 2004 at 4:10 PM
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Aw heck, Quirky,
I make up words all the time. Where did they come from to begin with anyway? Someone had to make them up!
posted by
Curly-Jo
on August 3, 2004 at 4:08 PM
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Schatz, thanks for your great comment and interesting
perspective on thin-skinnedness (I don't think that's a word, but it should be, lol!)
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:07 PM
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whammie--what did the doctor say when you said that??
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:04 PM
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man-boy...circumsized soul...ouch!!
Thanks for visiting today!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:01 PM
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scoop...uh-oh, your comment is giving me a really really
bad feeling ;-)
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 4:00 PM
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I think thin-skinnedness may be a virtue. All of you proclaiming yourselves
easily hurt are the nicest I have met in my 29 years.
Sarcasm? Yes. Yes, my family is full of sharp tongued women who are all intelligent and overweight, which to me signals we are all trying to defend ourselves from hurt.
I know it isn't a pleasant thing to be sensitive, but it also means you are less likely to all out attack someone for no reason other than to hurt them, and if you're anything like my tribe, it makes you very willing to accept others at face value until they give you a reason not to....then, um...watch the hell out.
posted by
Schatz
on August 3, 2004 at 3:04 PM
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I am Proud, Arrogant, Vain, and Hopelessly Insecure and Thin-Skinned
all in one.
Perhaps it has to do with a conflict between our objective and our subjective sense of self-worth.
I know I scrub up all right, but I have horrible fat and ugly days, and days of ruthless self-abuse. I have a great public facade, but often I hurt terribly and feel so all alone and unloved.
And now I am feeling terribly vulnerable for putting that out there.
Sarcasm is one of my defenses, and today, when I saw the doctor, because I have been unwell, I said, "The good news is.......I am going to live....or is that the bad news?"
I know I should not say things like that, because our subconscious deteriorates when we nurture it with Negativity.......
This, too, shall pass...........Thanks for your support and your fabulously gifted and trmendously kind words, My Friends!
Luv,
Whammie
posted by
WHAMENATOR
on August 3, 2004 at 2:13 PM
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I need to join the thin skin
club. I try to see the other side but the pleasures of sarcasm and practical jokes escape me. Just call me the exposed and circumsized soul.
Luv ya Quirky!
posted by
man-boy
on August 3, 2004 at 2:09 PM
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How can you be a thin skin screenwriter?
Anyhow thanks for a blogging idea! I love satire.
posted by
scoop
on August 3, 2004 at 2:02 PM
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Whammie, you join right here. But first you have to offer proof that you
really do have "thin skin!"
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 11:03 AM
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Thin-skins? Where do I join?!
Whammie
posted by
WHAMENATOR
on August 3, 2004 at 10:58 AM
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Hannah B, lol. Maybe we should start a club: for "thin-skins only"--
and yes, reading your journals is an excellent way to *remember* things that you have learned
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 10:53 AM
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LOL!!! A thicker skin? Me?
Oh, no, I'm a card-carrying member of the thin-skinned tribe! (And not just about my writing, either.) <pausing to think> But, maybe...just...you know, doing it helps. Putting ourselves out there, taking the risk, risking the ridicule and finding that...well, it stings, but it doesn't kill. I've spent way too much of my life avoiding living because I was afraid of something--rejection, failure, ridicule, shame. I know where my behavior originates, too, but I'm the one that continues to accept the limits I've placed on myself. Two months ago I went through a period of awakening and epiphanies but I feel as if I've lost my way again. Perhaps I need to re-read my journal entries from early June...
posted by
Hannah_B
on August 3, 2004 at 10:47 AM
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Hannah, to answer your first question...yes. Not just about my writing,
but everything. I understand where the behavior comes from, but I would like to develop a "thicker skin." Do you know how one goes about that??
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 10:33 AM
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Perhaps, when it comes to writing,
you care too much what others think? (Which of us doesn't?) Because something we've written is not just words on a page or a screen, but part of us, whether the work is autobiographical or "completely" fictional, we've still put something of ourselves out there for everyone's enjoyment/ridicule/praise/brickbats. If your reactions bother you, you can try to develop what my father always told me I needed, a thicker skin, just make sure you don't go too far the other way. We likes you as you are.
posted by
Hannah_B
on August 3, 2004 at 10:29 AM
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Hannah B, I like your perspective!! But I do think it's often problematic
when one over-reacts to the types of things I mentioned. (oh, the "Baby Quirky in the car" story is one of my favorite humor pieces. Pee Anon didn't go over quite as well...)--thanks for your comment!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 10:17 AM
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PrincessDani--WOW! A half hour! That's pretty good for blog reading--I am
honored and appreciative of your wonderful comment--thanks!
posted by
Julia.
on August 3, 2004 at 10:13 AM
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I was just thinking about the number of comments
that your posts tend to generate. I think it's a result of your sensitivity that you write things that touch others--whether it's the silly (Baby Quirky and the toy car springs to mind, as well as the more recent PA antics), the curious, or the intensely personal. It's part of who you are, and part of what makes you a writer. Maybe you don't need to either apologize for it or seek to change it.
posted by
Hannah_B
on August 3, 2004 at 10:06 AM
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Ive spent the last half hour reading you. You are a beautiful and amazing person
posted by
PrincessDani
on August 3, 2004 at 9:50 AM
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