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There's a saying, in certain activist communities,
that silence is death. I believe it. If not physical death, then the death of personality, of one's sense of freedom, the right to walk harmlessly and unharmed in this world.

posted by Pat_B on January 11, 2010 at 11:53 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I read this earlier

Azur, I read about your loss, and I am sorry you and your family must go through this difficult time.  My thoughts and heart are with you.

Yes, sometimes we need silence to heal.

posted by Ciel on December 31, 2009 at 8:56 PM | link to this | reply

Introspection turned inside out..........? I totally feel this. "The meaning of silence" has me thinking about crossroads too. I'll have to read this a couple more times. This is very meaningful and interesting Ciel.

posted by yellowrose55 on December 31, 2009 at 8:19 PM | link to this | reply

I read this earlier
and have been silent in considering a response. A friend just called and spoke of my silence but some messages had not got through. But in fact I have been silent. Needed to for a time after our loss at Christmas.

posted by Azur on December 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM | link to this | reply

Kabu, the key is in your hand..

Why not make a copy and give it to Wiley?

Maybe when he has something to tell you, a touch on your shoulder, or a certain phrase--perhaps both for a while, at the same time--will help you shift back to the world he lives in. 

You have this place of peace and happiness, not only refuge now.  That you constructed it so well tells how much you needed it.  That you drift there now says you needed it profoundly and often. It says you are still healing.  Neither of you can ignore that, nor should.  You both need patience along with love... You need freedom from any old vibes of shame and fear attached to living, that send you to Zorg.  From everything you and Wiley have shared here, I have no doubt he will work with you actively and lovingly to improve your ability to hear. 

I am so glad that my venting touched you in this way! It makes it other than just whinging about my angsty old baggages!

posted by Ciel on December 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM | link to this | reply

Sam, thanks so much!
And yes, I did! 

posted by Ciel on December 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM | link to this | reply

Troosha, it is not always a battleground...
More often it is a refuge.  And everytime I have to confront it as adversary, I gain ground: one day this particular piece of baggage will be on the pyre with several others I can think of. 

posted by Ciel on December 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM | link to this | reply

I hold my head down...guilty. See I have always livedon my ownplanet of
Zorg and it was for so long my sanity my escape from abuse. A land of dreams full of my stories full of happiness. Now I have Wiley and try as I do I can't stay on earth. Zorg still calls me. Wiley speaks ....but I am just not here, I don't hear him and I know it frustrates him. Your post makes me want to try harder for the man I love...not to drift away. Thank you.

posted by Kabu on December 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM | link to this | reply

I was thinking all along that it was well written, too! But the close too precious! Did you get Susan Boyle's CD? sam

posted by sam444 on December 27, 2009 at 11:59 AM | link to this | reply

Wow, Ciel
Albeit this was a powerful, extremely well-written post it was sad to read that silence, for you, is often a battleground. 

posted by Troosha on December 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM | link to this | reply

I used to fear the silence between me and others because I'm a naturally
shy and quiet person...my fear was that I would be perceived as boring or too conceited to talk...I hope others don't think that...now, I take all the various meanings of silence and ponder them quietly.  When I give silence, it's not as a tool for a war, but mostly to convey I am listening.

posted by Ariala on December 27, 2009 at 7:23 AM | link to this | reply