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It certainly can't hurt, b2008...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 10, 2008 at 1:06 AM
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Looks like a good battle is about to happen to me:)
posted by
b2008
on January 9, 2008 at 8:33 PM
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Hey, katevance, do you work for Obama? That's one helluva spin you
got going there. The best you can say about New Hampshire is that both Obama and Clinton walked away with the same number of convention delegates...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM
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Thanks, sam, and I agree...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM
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Absolutely, EX TURPI. My thoughts exactly...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM
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I agree, Corbin, only for the simple fact that it's good for the country.
This bouncing from extremes is ridiculous. Let them have a slugfest...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:16 PM
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It's interesting alright, Justi. The problem I'm having with it is all the
damn spin and media focus on elimination. They were talking about eliminating Clinton if she didn't win N.H. Why? With only two Democratic primaries down, why would you count anyone out that didn't bow out? Especially with all the money Clinton has? I don't Obama or Clinton can win the general election against someone like Huckabee or McCain. Against Giuliani, yes. Against Romney, probably. Against Huckabee. No way. Against McCain. No way... They need John Edwards to lead to win, with Obama or Clinton as VP. It's the strongest ticket for the Democrats. They lose almost no ground with an Edwards/Obama ticket. If you flip it, the GOP propaganda machine will destroy them... If it's Hillary, same thing...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:15 PM
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Yeah, TAPS. Our primary here in Georgia is on Super Tuesday...
posted by
saul_relative
on January 9, 2008 at 8:05 PM
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Polls were wrong??? No, Barack Did Win NH!
Barack won NH. In order to prove this statement, let's look at the activities leading up to the vote. The events leading up to the NH primary actually skewed the numbers and made the statistical significance of the "win" minimal.
The news media SWAMPED the TV and other political commentaries with Hillary's "emotional" moment. She got more airtime than any other candidate for at least two days straight. It was unreal. So, given the excessive amount of coverage, it is no wonder that more people either came out, or voted for her.
The political implications are mind boggling. One, it took Obama's win in Iowa to "make her see the light" or "find her voice". Two, it showed all of the candidates the power of the press and TV media. While the media "savants" and pundits ask themselves what happened, "what did Hillary do?" They will never admit that their continued, relentless coverage of her loss and subsequent "emotional" moment was the catalyst for her "win" last night.
Anyone with an ounce of sense should be able to see that if she was covered with the same amount of video and sound bytes as every other candidate for those two days, her showing would have been a LOSS, and a lukewarm response at best.
And let's examine that moment from her end. You darned right she was tearing up. After all the money, the stumping, dragging Bill around and everything else, she couldn't win in Iowa. That's enough to make anyone cry. I don't blame her for getting teary. But at the end of the day, they misjudged our man, and it's a different ball game now.
Barack is the most genuine candidate out there and the establishment knows it. They will use whatever is at their disposal (like the media) to put in "anyone but him!"
So onward and upward friends, this just got good!
Thank you Barack and Michelle for showing everyone what you're made of.
posted by
katevance
on January 9, 2008 at 9:37 AM
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I just want to see real leadership emerge. I like you well written article. sam
posted by
sam444
on January 9, 2008 at 8:10 AM
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It might not had been good for anyone had Senator Obama walked away with a win. It is better the voters in the other primary states, and hence the country as a whole, be able to make an evaluation of all the candidates. Of course, the advertisers, TV networks, radio stations, newspapers, and their employees are guaranteed continued employment.
The most important aspect, however, is that Mr. Obama is made to understand that the hill he has to climb, if he is the nominee, is fraught with unpredictable outcomes. He will, therefore, be better prepared.
posted by
EX_TURPI
on January 9, 2008 at 7:53 AM
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Saul....
Most of all......the pundits were way wrong......they had Hillary considering dropping out of the race, or so they thought. It's amazing what a few crocodile tears can do! Years of practicing paid off.
Frankly, I'm glad the ol' girl won.....Obama needed to be brought back down out of the clouds, a reality check was in order and delivered.........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 9, 2008 at 1:55 AM
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Saul
This election is interesting. I am more unsure than I was as soon as most had dried the ink on the connect. These are strange flavors in a one pot meal. Good post. South Carolina will be quaint one as well.
posted by
Justi
on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
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Saul_Relative
Thank you for your reports. I watch all the stuff on the TV but, the more you watch it, the more you want to. Its rather addictive. Its getting more interesting all the time. Less than a month and my turn is coming up to vote.
posted by
TAPS.
on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
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