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kidnykid, You have my complete compassion and sympathy. Good luck !

posted by kingmi on August 11, 2006 at 12:33 PM | link to this | reply

Trust me on this one...

You don't want bipolar type 2, either. That's the type of bipolar I have - the depressions are just as severe as they are in type 1, but one is hypomanic rather than fully manic. (Yes, Virginia, there is a difference - one of severity.)

posted by kidnykid on August 11, 2006 at 7:14 AM | link to this | reply

I have trouble

with people thinking that taking a pill is the solution. Yes take something to ease the pain of a current situation, but it is not a long term solution. We run to the easy fix to often. I had a friend that was extremely depressed. She had been taking seven different anti-depressents for 19 years. And, she was still depressed. She had not once during those 19 years been asked, what is going on in your life.

She was isolated, poor self esteem, single, and had no friends before me. She was 45 years old and never had a date, been kissed, or had any kind of intimate relationship. No wonder she was depressed.

I am not her only friend now, and she had even signed up for "It's Just Lunch", a dating service. She has had three dates. Now, we had to talk about, what she should do on a date. And so on.

I just think sometimes we need a life fix, rather than a pill.

posted by Redheadboss on August 2, 2006 at 2:07 AM | link to this | reply

redheadboss, you make a terrific case for beginning the grieving

Process, no matter the age. My friend has been taking lithium off and on for forty years. He should begin grieving his loss now. Your suggestion sidesteps the pills issue. Beginning psychotherapy is definitely called for.
Thanks!

posted by kingmi on August 1, 2006 at 5:39 PM | link to this | reply

yipes

I should have read to last post for grammar, please overlook the english.....oh yeah just found a spell checker, i am so new to this board, i am green.

posted by Redheadboss on August 1, 2006 at 7:02 AM | link to this | reply

from redhead boss

Well, I did make it sound simple. But the understanding is simple and the process is self work.

It is so easy to think, take a pill, have a drink, fall in love, get money and my mood will be better.

And it is for a while. We have been taught to suppress our feeling starting at a yound age. So we bury our emotional wounds, but we bury them alive. Like swallowing a hot coal. Our subconsious wants to be healed and happy. So, then it attracts to us familiar situations, events, people and we perceive it much we did in the past. This is how those over and over patterns occur, and we slap our forehead and ask, "Why is the happening to me again."

So yes, evern the word depress means hold down. If we keep doing the same things over and over, we keep getting the same results over and over.

Don't stop taking the meds, but go to work on the other part as well. In work with multiple personalities, even mentioned in Gloria Stein book on self esteerm, some startling things were discovered. In one personality the client could be diabetic, and in another not. This says alot about our personality and our chemistry.

Of course that opens another can of worms, what is reality, where does personality come from and so on...I am new to the board, so it took me a while to find this post again.

posted by Redheadboss on August 1, 2006 at 6:49 AM | link to this | reply

Redheadboss, Your theory sounds very psychotheraputic, and I would love

to ascribe to it wholeheartedly. However, who will be the first to tell their patients suffering from life-long depression-mania episodes, to stop taking their lithium?

I really want to hear your response. I have a very close friend who is in this boat.

posted by kingmi on July 31, 2006 at 2:54 AM | link to this | reply

I disagree

As a professional MFT (Marriage and Family Therapist), I too was schooled in the medical model of diagnosing and giving labels to depression as well as other things.

Yet in my work with people I have found that when we can heal the emotional wounds of the past, and get our life better, something happens. Quantum physics is showing us a new idea. We can get addicted to emotional states, like a pattern that we are very used to.

When we can interrupt this pattern, consciously, by seeing how comical it is, or doing something different or find the real origin of the depression, we can heal.

It is not easy but since we develop our personality from our reality, we can change all of it.