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posted by Kabu on February 23, 2017 at 11:46 AM | link to this | reply

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The basic tenets of Hinduism and Buddhism are the same. Except for what Buddha calls the Shoonya, the Hindus call it Poorna - the difference being that its connotation for the same thing - Absolutism. The former is Nothingness or no-thingness, and the latter is Fullness, the Whole. Nirvana and Moksha, again, are the same goal of attaining to the Supreme. I just thought I should mention this. In Nothingness one cannot conceive of boundaries, whereas in Poorna, the concept of boundaries come in. Personally, i am more with Shoonya. 

posted by anib on February 22, 2017 at 9:40 PM | link to this | reply

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Thank you GM for your noticing my not mentioning Buddhism among major religions. And you rightly mention that Buddhism is a sore point with devout Hundus. But I am a great fan of Buddha, and his teachings. The reason I did not mention it here was,  I did so in my paper somewhat passingly, because Buddhism, born in India, its seed was taken by one of his disciples to China, the Hindus then had a way of chewing the seed in ways that the religion intended as reform of Hinduism would just have no space at all. In China, was planted the seed which grew into a sapling, and Dhyana which they could not pronounce, became Chaan. Still the ambience there being somewhat adverse, the sapling was taken to Japan where it blossomed into a robust tree, and the pronunciatin further changed to Zen, the religion known today the world over. So, in one sense, Buddhism was a part or a shoot of Hindu branch. I feel that Buddhism will later become the world religion (my personal view). In case you have practised their Vipassana meditation, I have experienced this to be even superior to Pranayama, for Vipassana is an easier technique to reach the same goal. Many thanks GoldenMean. 

posted by anib on February 22, 2017 at 8:36 PM | link to this | reply

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That I know , and thank you ever so much. 

posted by anib on February 22, 2017 at 8:13 PM | link to this | reply

Very interesting presentation....

..... but I notice that you did not mention Buddha or Buddhism,  when discussing the major religions.  Could it be that this is a sore point with devout Hindus,  since Buddhism was intended as a modification or reform of Hinduism?  I am somewhat familiar with Buddhism,  because my wife is from Thailand,  so I have studied it some,  and observed its practice in Thailand.

posted by GoldenMean on February 22, 2017 at 8:08 PM | link to this | reply

I don't think there was any need to apologize because I have read you long enough to know better! Your Sis 

posted by sam444 on February 22, 2017 at 8:25 AM | link to this | reply

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posted by anib on February 21, 2017 at 10:53 PM | link to this | reply

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Aha, dear Aba, then tis I who stand most humbly corrected, and I thank you immensely. I was taught in another less complex fashion, and now welcome a more detailed education from you in this aspect. Of course, one doesn't feel bad to enrich one's knowledge base! One is delighted. And accord is the result. My thanks to you, learned one, patient guru. Hugs! 

posted by Sea_Gypsy on February 21, 2017 at 10:41 PM | link to this | reply

Presta

Similar queries as this arose in the Conference too. 

posted by anib on February 21, 2017 at 10:29 PM | link to this | reply

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I accept all you kudoses with gratitude. Another thing my dear Presta is disagreement is the base of all accords, IMHO. So why should one feel bad about it? It is the dialogues that enrich us most. If you have pointed out an aberration, then I should be grateful to right myself, that's my attitude. I read the link with interest, but what I cannot say is whether the biblical assertion is not apocryphal. Much confusion is extant among the scholarly evangelists and researchers who later came to conclude that neither was Abraham nor Moses, Jews. Abraham was a Hebrew, and Moses an Israelite. The term Jew refers to descendants to the tribe of Judah, residents of the southern kingdom of Israel. The northern kingdom had ten tribes that predominantly inhabited there. The eleventh, a tribe called the Levites, was a priestly class spread over southern and northern Israel, of which Moses was a part. For over a thousand years (of slavery of the Israelites) after Abraham, Moses led them to the promised land. The Jews came into existence only in the 10th century BC,  during King David and King Solomon's reign, which roughly calculates to 3 - 5 hundred years after Moses. On this basis I said so, but I am open to corrections anytime. A big hug again, Presta. 

posted by anib on February 21, 2017 at 10:24 PM | link to this | reply

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Faith, indeed, is a faculty higher than reason. And one must invariable follow one's instinct. The Isness and the easyness must be there for everyone's satiation. Many thanks Kabu. 

posted by anib on February 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM | link to this | reply

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But the fact, sir, that you read, is good enough a satisfaction for me for this paper did indeed required accuracy and a string of plausible arguments, based on which one has to answer the queries posed by the participants. That I came out unscathed, it makes one feel good. Thank you so very much 

posted by anib on February 21, 2017 at 9:28 PM | link to this | reply

Aba

Dear Aba, what an incredible honor it must have been for you to present such a fine paper to such an esteemed audience at University! Many kudos to you for quite an achievement, and a wonderful and fitting title you chose. One must have great and diverse knowledge of world religions, past and present, along with knowledge of major philosophies. I read it with great interest.

Please forgive me, and I imagine you already knew this, but if I may mention that I beg to differ with you on one point, and that is regarding Moses. 'Another interesting fact is that neither Moses was a Jew...' is contrary to what is written in the biblical account of Moses' birth (Exodus 2:1-10), which states Moses was a Hebrew baby of the tribe of Levi. 

 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+2:1-10 

Loved your presentation of the paper! 

posted by Sea_Gypsy on February 21, 2017 at 7:30 PM | link to this | reply

It all comes back to finding the God of one's understanding. Faith is not something that can be bought. It is.

posted by Kabu on February 21, 2017 at 2:51 PM | link to this | reply

I cannot honestly say I understand all this Sir. However I appreciate the work that must have gone into this project. Most of our thoughts today are around immediate pleasures. The mind however is capable of many things and I expect those who dredged through all possible scenarios were able to come to some kind of answer that appealed.    

 

posted by C_C_T on February 21, 2017 at 11:56 AM | link to this | reply