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Re: GoldenMean
Thank you, and noted well.
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on January 23, 2017 at 7:58 PM
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RPresta
It would seem that the chance for "peace" between Arjuna and the family members who attack him are long past. And if one's opponents are committed to evil, there can be no "peace" with them anyway. Their aggressive state of mind makes "peace" with them impossible. "Peace" as a goal unto itself, is a dangerous and treacherous illusion. This is how I have always regarded "peace".
posted by
GoldenMean
on January 22, 2017 at 8:09 AM
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Re: The subject of this passage
Not just only right, GoldenMean, but absolutely right 
posted by
anib
on January 22, 2017 at 7:07 AM
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Re: Aba
A very pertinent question you have raised. Arjuna has indeed, not perhaps, gone into a catatonic state. That it is not enough, just as you think, so also thinks Arjuna. That is why he is still unconvinced, and Krishna is not able to elicit any positive response from him. See also how things become universal; they surreptitiously become our own questions too. You say, 'If a yogi was reasoning with me to seek peace with my family, it would be easier than reasoning with me to kill them.' The rationale has thus failed in this particular case. So, what next? The operative word in your query is 'peace'. Doubts, in the mind of the person to whom I am trying to convince, needs to be demolished, no matter if in the process, my own conviction, be it logicalas it were, is demolished. See this adderssed in my next entry. Thank you once again, Presta the philosopher. 
posted by
anib
on January 22, 2017 at 7:05 AM
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The subject of this passage
I very much enjoy this part of the scripture. Here, God is encouraging a warrior to continue the fight against evil. It does not matter that the evil-doers are part of his family. They will not voluntarily stop in their evil domination and destruction. Arjuna's choices are to FIGHT them (and slay them if necessary), or to SUBMIT to their evil will, and be tyrannized or enslaved by them. Do I have this part right?
posted by
GoldenMean
on January 22, 2017 at 5:43 AM
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Aba
Catatonic, is how he seems, perhaps. The logic resonates perfectly well with me, yet somehow I am not comfortable with only that knowledge; I am left feeling, though all he is being told may be correct, that it is not enough, if I were he. The "bait" must not be mine! Now if a yogi was reasoning with me to seek peace with my family, it would be easier than reasoning with me to kill them. Or if my life was in danger, and a yogi explained the logic using that rationale, I would see that point. I know more must be coming and I cant wait to learn. Thank you. 
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on January 22, 2017 at 12:43 AM
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Re: Aba
Pls whenever convenient.
posted by
anib
on January 21, 2017 at 9:52 PM
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Re: Wow Kabu, that was so from the heart
so effusive and spontaneous and addressed with love. I bow my head to you. 
posted by
anib
on January 21, 2017 at 9:51 PM
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darling friend, my teacher and spiritual "make me stop and think" I just love you.
posted by
Kabu
on January 21, 2017 at 9:18 AM
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Aba
Will visit again later.
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on January 21, 2017 at 12:37 AM
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