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Re: Re: Re: Kabu

I am grateful you consider me so. You too are a lady I truly admire and revere for your kind-heartedness and goodness, so also Sor Wiley, and over and above, the prolific reader and writer that you are.

posted by anib on June 23, 2016 at 7:13 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: abibanerhee

Actually, my uncle, now no more, was a giant scholar of Eng Lit. All I could do was sit and discuss philosophy, literature, psychology and spiritualism with utter amazement.It was he who developed these interests in me and probably it also ran in our family blood. He never taught me formally though. Sanskrit was another gift he gave me. So that is how, you know. 

posted by anib on June 23, 2016 at 7:07 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Kabu

Thank you for your constant encouragement. They egg me on to give the best I can. And when people like you love them,  these are my true reward.  

posted by anib on June 23, 2016 at 6:59 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Kabu

you are a brilliant writer and have taught me much. I love to learn, have probably forgotten by now much I used to know.

posted by Kabu on June 22, 2016 at 2:10 PM | link to this | reply

Re: abibanerhee

Wow! No, I did not know that, nor would I ever have guessed. I would think you a Lit major or professor. One tends to excel in that which one loves. That I can tell. Amazing, truly amazing! Well done.

posted by Sea_Gypsy on June 22, 2016 at 2:14 AM | link to this | reply

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Did you know Presta I have never attended any formal classes in Literature. Quite on the contrary, I was a science and economics student. But all through Lit has been my great love. 

posted by anib on June 21, 2016 at 9:22 PM | link to this | reply

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Should read "...in many formal classes." 

posted by Sea_Gypsy on June 21, 2016 at 8:41 PM | link to this | reply

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posted by Sea_Gypsy on June 21, 2016 at 8:40 PM | link to this | reply

I think Shakespeare's humor may have been overlooked in my formal classes. There is a skill required but also one needs to possess humor to portray it in writing. Falstaff is a free spirit and I like very much how you tell his story. I also love the move, The Lion in Winter; the dialogue, fabulous to me! And Midsummer Night's Dream, and, oddly, Henry VIII, though I understand that was co-written with someone. Seeing that play in my early 20s led to me reading much on Henry, even now occasionally. 

posted by Sea_Gypsy on June 21, 2016 at 8:40 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Ciell

Thank you so much, I'll definitely try and find out either in the net, or else buy a DVD. Shakespeare, in his time and circumstances, probably knew as much, or it may have been intentional for the sake of drama. I have, on many occasions, found history and a playwright's version at variance from the other

 

 

 

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posted by anib on June 21, 2016 at 7:13 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Ciell

You can find Branagh's HENRY V on dvd. I have it, and watch it now and then. It is such a powerful play! After seeing it the first time, I went off to find the history of Agincourt to discover how accurate, or not, Shakespeare was in his retelling. He left out some things that would be called atrocities today, on his part, but was normal warfare then. As to the numbers of dead on each side, that's still debated by many historians, though his numbers are backed up by some of those historians.

Another really fine, powerful, historic play is THE LION IN WINTER that was done as a film with Peter O'Toole and Katharine Hepburn. 

posted by Ciel on June 21, 2016 at 5:33 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Kabu

That should have been boosts.

posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:43 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Kabu

As for me, I have never seen the play the way you and Ciel did, and you associate and identify with the story so well. Thank you ma'am Kabu, your patronising me gives boasts to my ego.  I only analyse from my readings.

posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:42 PM | link to this | reply

Ciell

I like the way you put additional insight to this play. No wonder Henry V is yours and Kabu's favourite. Many thanks, ma'am.

posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM | link to this | reply

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posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:33 PM | link to this | reply

Re: C.C.T

To quite an extent CCT, I believe that our taste for humor has become base. Thank you so much for reading and for appreciating.

posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:32 PM | link to this | reply

Re: FSI

Yes, I believe that humor, mora than just seriousness, is a quality that. Makes a writer great, and I this aspect so matchless is Shakespeare. Thank you.

posted by anib on June 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM | link to this | reply

Wow.....First to you and second to Ceil. master writers on such an exciting subject. falstaff was indeed a many dimential character and I don't know today, but i can think back to my Childhood and compare some very odd characters to the famous Falstaff. yes, individuals, free spirits, one cannot be a coward if one is to live exactly as one pleases.

And I agree with Ceil re Kenneth Brenagh's Henry V. absolutely brilliant. Sat right on the edge of my seat all the way through.

posted by Kabu on June 20, 2016 at 9:22 AM | link to this | reply

The Kenneth Branaugh version of HENRY V is one of my favorite films, favorite Shakespeare plays... and Falstaff is wonderfully performed by Robbie Coltrane as a thorough opportunist, and, as you say, uttlerly amoral rogue. He has a sinister edge, no loyalty but to his own interests. He makes a clear contrast to Hal's natural nobility that comes to the fore when Hal becomes Henry V, and Henry's denial of his past companions makes very distinct the difference between them: Whatever Falstaff and the others were, they amused Hal but did not corrupt Henry.

 

posted by Ciel on June 20, 2016 at 7:52 AM | link to this | reply

Well researched. Of course humour has changed, probably for the worst.

posted by C_C_T on June 20, 2016 at 7:46 AM | link to this | reply

Shakespeare did a great job with humor in his plays.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on June 20, 2016 at 5:29 AM | link to this | reply