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Re: Trump was right.......
CORBIN!!! WELCOME BACK!!! Boy, have I missed you, as have others, I'm sure! I do hope to see you posting again - we need every sane and conservative voice we can get here in Blogitville, LOL...And thank you for that excellent bit of information, which, with your permission, and citing the source, I will post deparately tomorrow! 
posted by
Nautikos
on December 9, 2015 at 7:56 PM
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Trump was right.......
Carter used this law passed in 1952 by Dem Congress at the request of Dem Prez....
8 U.S. Code § 1182 – Inadmissible aliens Page 138
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.
Here's Jimmy Carter saying it back in 1980.
Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against "our values" after all. It may even be "who we are". Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.
Meanwhile here's how the Iranian students in the US were treated.
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.
Oh wait....Carter was a Prog, so it must have been OK.......
Meanwhile any Iranians entering the US were forced to undergo secondary screening.
Interestingly enough, Carter did this by invoking the Nationality Act of 1952. A law originally opposed by Democrats for its attempt to restrict Communist immigration to the United States.
“If this oasis of the world should be overrun, perverted, contaminated, or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished,” Senator McCarran said of the law. He was a Democrat.
Now unlike Muslims, Iranians were not necessarily supportive of Islamic terrorism. Many were and are opponents of it. Khomeini didn't represent Iran as a country, but his Islamist allies. So Trump's proposal is far more legitimate than Carter's action. Carter targeted people by nationality. Trump's proposal does so by ideology.
Classifying Iranians as a group is closer to racism than classifying people by a racist supremacist ideology that calls for the mass murder and enslavement of non-Muslims, as ISIS is doing today.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on December 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM
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Trump said it like it is and should be except they shoud be banned from North America
posted by
WileyJohn
on December 9, 2015 at 4:01 PM
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Trump said it like it is and should be except they shoud be banned from North America
posted by
WileyJohn
on December 9, 2015 at 4:01 PM
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You are absolutely right about all of the hate speech in the Koran, which of course, the media ignores.
I am not surprised about the wrong address being overlooked. After all, the Tsarnaev brothers had an asylum but traveled back and forth, anyway.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on December 9, 2015 at 6:33 AM
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Weathered-- amen to all you said. We need to profile more, not less, especially when it comes to Muslims.
Nautikos-- yes, let's have some more verses of hate and violence, that the Muslims regard as sacred truth. You show me yours, and I will show you mine, LOL. Between the two of us, we might open an eye or two from their blissful ignorant sleep.
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM
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Donald Trump Hate Speech - Whaaaat??? Reeeally???
What I heard Donald Trump say was let's stop letting Muslims into the US until we can figure this out. What I heard Donald Trump say is don't be afraid to profile (be strategic), he will protect us from profiling. Did I hear him wrong? Shall I clean out my ears and rewind the tape?
I also heard another civil servant state that we citizens need to keep our eyes open and report that which seems out of the norm. Might that guy mean profile? A happy muslim couple went to the gun range for a lovely afternoon of target practice. What's wrong with that picture??? It wasn't profiled or reported until after the fact. Maybe profiling would've saved 14 american lives. Oh, well.
This is what I was talking about in my doing nothing post. We are so worried about feelings and labels and hearts and flowers and he said and she said, and oh, look, there goes a chicken.
Profiling is a strategy in the war on terror. Profiling is not hate or a state of being. It is a mechanism, a device, and a tool for prevention. Then again - oh, well. 
posted by
WeatheredLight
on December 8, 2015 at 1:47 PM
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I, for one, do not need anymore hate speeches. I know they are continual and that they are bad, and that they will always be such. But, I also know that there are many intelligent Americans who have no idea about what is really going on and "what evil lurks in the hearts of men." (~ from The Green Shadow) I have a feeling that not many will change their minds.
posted by
TAPS.
on December 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM
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