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Krisles-- maybe you should re-visit the Nimitz museum, and post some photos for us. Thank you for your support of my long post here.
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 9, 2015 at 6:11 AM
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So here is the comment to Nautikos
Nautikos-- divine revelations, or important communications from spiritual beings, are entirely possible. Just imagine, for the sake of argument, that intelligent life can exist without biological bodies. Consider it a hypothesis. If so, it is logical that this type of life has existed for billions of years, far longer than the human race, because we know that the universe has existed for at least 14 billion years. It is also feasible that this type of ancient life would wish to maintain some sort of relationship with us, whether helpful or predatory. In some circles, these two categories are called 'service-to-other' and 'service-to-self'. Some entities may wish to help us evolve, while other entities may wish to dominate us and exploit us. What better way to do this than religions, in either direction?
Then there is the Holy Church of the Electron, of which we are all members, including you. Electrons are blazing back and forth between us, allowing us to communicate here. Yet no scientist has ever seen an electron, and probably never will. They can only observe the EFFECTS of electrons, so they can only postulate the existence of electrons. Yet electrons are essential to the biological processes of life, and we have built our modern civiization upon them.
Even more incredible, no scientist knows what causes electrons to continue in their perpetual movement, orbiting atoms and skipping along chains of atoms to bring us light and energy. Why do the electrons never slow down? Why do the electrons move at all? When did they start moving, or have they been moving forever? What fantastic force is propelling electrons in their insanely fast orbits? What fortunate quirk of energy makes electrons flow, jumping from one atom to another, to power our bodies and televisions and computers?? We do not know. Then we can get into quantum physics, where one thing can exist in at least two different places at the same time. Science is just getting started to investigate these mysteries.
You, Nautikos, have never seen an electron, and you will never see one. Yet you believe they exist, I presume, and you believe the scientists who tell us they exist.
My conclusion: The unobservable electron is similar to the unobservable life energy within us, and in the older, greater non-physical entities that likely exist. We cannot see the entities, but we see the EFFECTS of those entities, such as in religion.
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 8, 2015 at 2:27 AM
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My Goodness, How do you people maintain so many blogs???
This is getting to be a pain of sorts. I come here to get away from the rat race, and now I am in a blog race. I have decided to start only 3 blogs, and they are becoming as demanding as crying babies. I get one taken care of, then must rush to another to see if its diaper is dirty, and must be changed. Then I rush to another, to find that it must be fed.
Then I begin commenting on other people's blogs, and this just creates more crying babies to tend to..... now I feel I am surrounded by needy little urchins, tugging at my sleeve.
And yet I see that some of you have 4,5,6 blogs going. I wonder if you have a day job. Presumably some of you are retired. I do still have a day job, and I would have to quit it to keep up with all this! But then I would be a crying baby, with bills to pay, and nothing to pay them with!
With that vented, I am enjoying it. I decided to copy my latest comment in my other blog, a comment in reply to Nautikos, so that people who read this and not that, may chance to see it.
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 8, 2015 at 2:03 AM
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"Weak" is not a word that comes to my mind when I think of God..."subtle" perhaps...definitely "difficult to perceive or understand". Who can know the mind of God is a question asked in the Bible. He saves whom He will, and for His own purpose, even while he loves fully for He is Love. Someday we will understand what is beyond our understanding now. Even so, we should never give up trying to understand, and that is why I have always read Nautikos, and am reading you.
posted by
TAPS.
on December 8, 2015 at 1:18 AM
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I live very near the Nimitz Museum (also the Pacific Theater Museum for WWII) but it's been years since I toured and this makes me want to go back through and actually read things more thoroughly. I looked at the photos...and I've looked at the videos. I believe we have to force ourselves to look and face it. I'm afraid Naut is right that there are many who won't read due to the length; however, there may be more interest due to recent events...people may be more interested in educating themselves.
posted by
Krisles
on December 7, 2015 at 9:02 PM
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Icebergs and Spears
Yes, ISIS is the tip of the iceberg, and also the tip of the spear. The rest of Islam is the body of the spear, the attachment of the spear body to the shaft, the length of the spear shaft, and the energy propelling the spear.
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM
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With 20/20 hindsight and hope that that history's learned from itself.
posted by
BC-A
on December 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM
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Nautikos
I thought this WAS bite-size, LOL. Wait till you see how long this series of posts is. I tried to keep interest up through the long post, by including graphics. I thought maybe those who eyes glazed over, would perk back up with a picture to look at. Maybe not.....
Atheist-Christian is great. That means there is hope for you yet, LOL.....
I am not sure there is a proper label for me, but I am proud to identify as Christian. I think it is the best available label. I have researched pretty much all the others.
I am not at all sure that the metaphysical source for the 'divine' revelations to Mohammed are the same source as Christian revelations. If fact, I strongly suspect that the source is very different. Of course, the Islam source would claim the same lineage, the better to hi-jack it. This may all be lost to an atheist, or a waste of time, but we shall see.....
posted by
GoldenMean
on December 7, 2015 at 9:36 AM
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I should add just one thought:
ISIS is just the 'tip of the iceberg' of the problem of Islam, and the result of a long development. It's 'defeat', even if possible, would be little more than temporary. What is necessary, and what is understood even by some Muslims, is an Islamic 'Reformation'. And as I have explained here in the past, the West's contribution must be to force Muslims to demand that by making Islam as unacceptable as Naziism...
posted by
Nautikos
on December 7, 2015 at 9:27 AM
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GM
A very interesting post!
Nimitz's reflections on the Japanese tactical and even strategic errors are absolutely correct - one marvels at the failure of the Japanese staff officers to consider the American infrastructure! It would be interesting to trace the development of Japanese planning by going into their archives, which may well still exist. Maybe some Japanese historians have done so - but I know absolutely nothing about it - it ain't anywhere near the things I've been concerned with, LOL...
About the 'hand of God' in all this - I'm sure you know that Muslims revere the same God of Abraham (Ibrahim in Arabic) revered by Jews and Christians...
I probabIy should explain that I am an atheist with a very strong affinity for the Judaic-Christian tradition (having been raised in it, among other things) - in fact, and as my Blogitville readers know, I call myself an 'atheist Christian'. I thought I was the only one, until some years ago I found the inestimable Oriana Fallaci called herself that as well, LOL...
One more thing: I have found that people's eyes tend to glaze over, metaphorically speaking, and they stop reading when they encounter 'long' posts. That's why I tend to chop things up into 'bite-sized' sections, and mark them appropriately. I am mentioning that because I really do want people to read you...
posted by
Nautikos
on December 7, 2015 at 9:07 AM
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