Comments on Justi's Question: Do I think kids get a better education now?

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Pat

I strongly suspect the gap between the 'potential' for and the 'reality' of education today is widening at an alarming rate...Having a virtually unlimited amount of 'information' available at the click of a mouse does not mean one has an 'eduction'...

posted by Nautikos on July 22, 2015 at 8:40 PM | link to this | reply

I haven't heard that expression 'since Heck was a pup' since my Grandpa died. Loved reading it here!

posted by adnohr on July 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM | link to this | reply

Pat_B

I agree that the 'means' are there to get a great education - but only the kind that can be gotten in books, or from apps, or from all the other technological wonders teachers can bring to bear these days.  What they don't get is discipline at home or at school so that they are prepared to absorb even the basics, focus (please, cell phones and iPods are rampant in classes) , true incentive to achieve (everyone gets to be winners), and family endorsed values are either so watered down with 'social' this and that - and the values taught by teachers are too often at odds with what parents would want.

I can only base my opinion on what I encounter daily in the workplace and out and about when I am around young folks - too many of them don't know the basics it takes to hold anything that requires personal communication and interaction, clear language skills, rudimentary writing skills; in other words the basics required to get a decent job.  They don't all have to be college material, no need to....but they can't read and write or talk well enough to make it.  And the "they" I refer to grows larger and larger....sad.

posted by Krisles on July 22, 2015 at 6:29 PM | link to this | reply

My take... the social order is changing.

I went to the school end of year production and the awards day end of school year in Wagga last November. I was sos proud of all the young folks that had achieved such high standards...what are we worried about I said to Son # 1..."Mum." he answered. " since you have been here you have seen the best achievers from  grades...7 through to 12. That's 200 kids out of 1000. 800 kids are just here because they have to be at school. Waiting to leave so that they can live off security or in some dead end job. And this is one of 6 High Schools in the Town!!"

To me that says each year a few bright sparks will move on in life and do really well achieving a comfortable type of life style while the rest languish below the poverty line.

posted by Kabu on July 22, 2015 at 12:12 PM | link to this | reply

The problem with higher education, I think Pat. Most students do not study projects that would really benefit them. It is no use studying Art and History if one wants to go into finance. We have here vacancies for engineers, but not many fancy that kind of occupation. I know most will never pay the debt off. They will just go back to getting a job and now here it will be cheaper to employ younger personal it makes one wonder more than ever. Once one went to work and studied when one could, jobs are becoming more select unless one means to go on benefits. 

posted by C_C_T on July 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM | link to this | reply

PatB

A lack of employment opportunities now makes me think a lot of knowledge is going to waste love.

posted by WileyJohn on July 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM | link to this | reply