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That actually sounds familiar, TAPS. Sad to say, my father was a bit of a bigot back in the day, and my mother tried to explain it to me by saying my dad had grown up, went to school and was in the Navy with a 'mix' of races. And unfortunately, his 'views' of others was usually negative. However, my brothers and sisters and I were eventually able to see past 'color' and form our own judgements and opinions. I've always felt that there's good and bad everywhere. It's too bad not everyone looks at it that way . . .

posted by JimmyA on May 23, 2014 at 6:45 AM | link to this | reply

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I have this feeling, jean, that various forms of racism and discrimination are always going to exist. People just love to concentrate more on our differences rather than our similarities, and will seemingly use any excuse to keep certain groups separated. When I was in grammar school, there was one black girl in our class for a few years, and everyone got along with her just fine. We were fortunate that no one really looked upon each other in terms of 'black & white.' Kids were just kids. We were probably more separated by gifted & remedial or bullies & victims . . .

posted by JimmyA on May 23, 2014 at 6:36 AM | link to this | reply

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Just like slavery, Kabu, in any form, is a blot on all of humanity's history. It's amazing, and appalling, sometimes when we think of what some humans can do to each other! I'm glad that, although someone like Moe Howard is more known for his silly antics, that he also had a humanitarian side that very few people knew about. You know what they say about judging book covers . . .

posted by JimmyA on May 23, 2014 at 6:28 AM | link to this | reply

This Moe mind-set is familiar to me.  My dad always responded in the same way in a situation like that and he made a big impression on his children.  We grew up thinking all people were equal, but I always wondered why there were only white students at our schools.  I graduated from highschool before desegregation.

posted by TAPS. on May 22, 2014 at 10:26 PM | link to this | reply

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sad to say we have not come far enough......back in the 80's here where i live, i knew people that would only let black people come to their back door.  and when my youngest was in grade school here, they did not care if the black children showed up or not.... and sad to say some still use the n word here. it is getting better, but slowly, maybe when all my sons generation has died off, maybe not here in the south because it is handed down from one generation to the next.  and it is probably why all our friends here are yankees replanted.

posted by jeansaw on May 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM | link to this | reply

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the aboriginal people yes...similiar despising like the American tribes although the aborigines didn't fight back much.

But the White Australia Policy is a blot on our modern History.

posted by Kabu on May 22, 2014 at 5:43 PM | link to this | reply

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Well, Bill, I don't know whether or not that's a 'good' example, but that's the saying that's usually used. However, the concept is the same. Apparently, people are still going to need time to understand the world and the 'beings' that occupy it. Hopefully, someday, we'll figure it all out . . .

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply

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That is, if finished Rome’s a good example Jimmy. BC-A, Bill’s R®st

posted by BC-A on May 22, 2014 at 7:38 AM | link to this | reply

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That's very true, C C T. I recall watching a history program that talked about the various propaganda techniques the Germans used during WW II to 'divide' the Allies. One tactic was to lead the British troops into believing that, while they were away in Italy and North Africa ( before the Normandy Invasion ), American troops massing in England were having their way with the British lasses! Now British and American 'cousins in arms' were eyeing each other suspiciously. Thankfully it didn't really succeed, and the Allies prevailed. But sometimes that's all it takes, to get others to notice the differences between people instead of the similarities. Someday the human race will realize that we are all basically one . . . 

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 6:08 AM | link to this | reply

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I would assume, Kabu, that much of it would be reserved for the Aborigines, which is somewhat strange when you really think about it, because they were there first ( isn't that what aborigine basically means? ). However, racism obviously comes in many forms, and is directed at different people for different reasons. Is it brought on by fear, insecurity, envy, or is it simply pure hate? Find the answer to that one, and we may all be better off . . . 

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 6:02 AM | link to this | reply

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We certainly have, FSI, but of course, there's still a ways to go! I think that one of the things that made this particular tale so intriguing was the fact that it happened to someone like Moe Howard of The Three Stooges! With all of his eye-poking, face slapping and pie-throwing antics, it was nice to read that he had a kind and humanitarian side to him . . .

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 5:57 AM | link to this | reply

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Are you sure, Naut? My ancestors came out of Poland, which, last time I looked, was nowhere near Africa!  No, I know what you're saying. It is often said that people shouldn't judge, but we all do anyway. However, if you're going to judge, base your assessments on the other person's actions and character, not the color of their skin. There's good and bad everywhere, and no one has cornered the market on 'assholeness' ( is that a word? ). Yes, a poignant story indeed . . . 

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 5:52 AM | link to this | reply

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That's all too true, shamasehar. There were many, especially during that period of time, who may have acquiesced to 'local customs,' and did as the Roman's did. I was actually glad to read that someone like Mr. Horwitz stood his ground, and did not 'except' the racism that was the norm for these people and this particular city. He saw that man as just another human being, deserving of the respect and consideration he would want himself. Hopefully others learned from his example . . . 

posted by JimmyA on May 22, 2014 at 5:47 AM | link to this | reply

Yes Jimmy it  was the same in wars I remember that it existed amongst troops. Poor job when they could all get killed in the same trench.

posted by C_C_T on May 21, 2014 at 10:15 PM | link to this | reply

Unbelievable to an Australian, or so it would seem, one doesn't hear about it much. But it is there.....There is much submerged racism in Australia

posted by Kabu on May 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM | link to this | reply

A very powerful story there. Another reason to like Moe Howard all the more....Indeed, we have come a long way.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on May 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM | link to this | reply

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Thanks for that fascinating and poignant story! Yes, we have come a long way! But will we ever get 'there'? Maybe when everyone understands that we all came out of Africa - some a little ealier, others a little later...

posted by Nautikos on May 21, 2014 at 7:35 AM | link to this | reply

It's a heartwarming story and sometimes you walk alone on the path of your beliefs before others come along,join and a change gradually takes place.🌹

posted by shamasehar on May 21, 2014 at 6:44 AM | link to this | reply