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posted by Kabu on July 12, 2013 at 6:02 PM | link to this | reply

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Good to know, Kabu. I know everyone can't always agree on everything, but "often" is good enough for me . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Another word for it is "entitlement,"

I understand what you're saying Ciel, but there are still certain aspects of that definition that are difficult to fathom, and deal with on a daily basis. There seems to be an awful lot of inconsiderate people out there who don't necessarily fall into any of those "entitlement categories" you mentioned! Putting aside that equality thing and the "king" concept, there still doesn't seem to be any logical excuse for people to place those "invisible blinders" on their faces and treat others so disrespectfully! Do unto others . . .  is that concept now completely lost too?

posted by JimmyA on July 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM | link to this | reply

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and you and I are so often on the same page...for once again I agree.

posted by Kabu on July 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM | link to this | reply

Another word for it is "entitlement,"

which is natural in children who have not yet learned that they have to share, and play fair, and be respectful if they want to be respected... And it is also something people with a lot of money or privilege by birth in high places, also are prone too, though it may be harder to teach them, than children.

And in American society, where "every man's a king" because of that equality thing--the entitlement aspect of that concept has been passed on down, without the "noblesse oblige" part.

posted by Ciel on July 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM | link to this | reply

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I hope, Mia, that I didn't ruin your afternoon by pointing out this terrible affliction facing our society today! Yeah, they drive me crazy too ( thus my rant )! And I've done the same thing with people's shopping carts. The funny part is, if you're caught, they give you a dirty look as if you've done something wrong! Isn't it terrible that people who are generally well-mannered and considerate of others are now in the minority? What the hell happened out there, and just what are we to do . . . ?  

posted by JimmyA on July 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM | link to this | reply

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See, Naut? Great minds think alike! And if those lack of manners and lack of consideration does start with upbringing, then I think I know where a huge part of the blame may lie. For the longest time, I had read and heard about various children's advocacy groups touting the pitfalls and downside to spanking and/or hitting your child. Although I have no children of my own, I was a child once, and clearly remember how I was brought up. And if I showed any kind of disrespect or displayed any kind of bad manners in any given situation, I got a rap on the side of the head, or a good swift kick in the ass! Now these advocacy groups actually think that a "time out" will have the same end result! Wrong! And because this terribly inadequate method has been jammed down everybody's throats all these years, it's probably way too late to reverse now! Yes, as a "social fact," we are clearly in trouble . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 12, 2013 at 5:28 AM | link to this | reply

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You've hit a sore spot - I have definitely noticed these people, and they drive me crazy! I move carts that have been parked in the middle if the store isle, whether the owner is watching or not. This self-absorbed behaviour has become so common that showing common consideration actually makes you stand out in a crowd. Terrifying.

Thanks for bringing it up - I shall spend the remainder of the afternoon stewing about these inconsiderate cretins. 

posted by Mia890 on July 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

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I was going to draw your attention to Ciel's post on the same topic, but I see you've already been there! So I can only repeat what I said there - lack of good manners and lack of consideration for others has become very much part of our culture; in the most general sense, and allowing for all kinds of contextual variations, it's a massive 'social fact'...

posted by Nautikos on July 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

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It is indeed, Kabu. Oh, don't get me wrong. There are still a lot of selfless, generous people out there willing to lend a helping hand to whoever may need it, just as there are still those who actually stop and consider the next person before they do certain things. It just seems as though their numbers are dwindling . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM | link to this | reply

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oh and I am not disagreeing with you for a second. Society is really all about me myself just me and it is so sad.

posted by Kabu on July 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM | link to this | reply

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Thanks, TAPS. I try to be thorough with my rants!

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM | link to this | reply

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Unfortunately, lustor, I've also seen, or rather, overheard, those same types of people fighting on their cell phones. Makes very little sense to me. What's that old saying about dirty laundry and the public? And no, these people don't just live near you! They're all over, kinda like a plague, of which there seems to be no cure . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM | link to this | reply

Enjoyed reading the post, and all the comments, and I don't think I really need to add anything.  Subject is pretty well covered here.

posted by TAPS. on July 11, 2013 at 9:05 AM | link to this | reply

I thought they only lived here especially when most the population around here are older people and they dont know you exist as they push the shopping cart up your butt.  I am with you when it comes to private conversations I hardly ever even bring my phone with me as I use it mostly to text with my daughter who is one that doesnt care who hears her conversation even when she is fighting with her husband

posted by Lanetay on July 11, 2013 at 8:07 AM | link to this | reply

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I can understand that, C C T. Except that those "blinders" were being used for a reason! And I think that race of beings with tunnel vision may already be amongst us! I have a feeling that you "bump" into them all the time . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 7:49 AM | link to this | reply

Well Jimmy is that what you call them, very generous if I may say so.

Probably in time a new race with tunnel vision will develop.

Incidently my Dad had a horse which pulled a waggon although the old

nag had those what do you call them. He still had to shut down the

two oil lamps at night when walking through flooded roads as the reflection

of the lights disturbed the horse.

posted by C_C_T on July 11, 2013 at 7:41 AM | link to this | reply

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Thanks, Dr JPT. No, I don't include ( or exclude ) any particular aspect of our splintered society in this one. I believe that selfishness, rudeness and inconsideration knows no race, gender, age, religion, sexual preference, political affiliation or region of country. These "blinder-wearers" come from every walk of life, from all over the place! Some might say it was how they were brought up. Some might argue that bad behavior just perpetuates more bad behavior. Regardless, I believe it has reached epidemic proportions, and is getting harder and harder to deal with on a daily basis . . .  

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:57 AM | link to this | reply

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It's deja vu!

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:47 AM | link to this | reply

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That's a tough combination, Sir Wiley! But I think those particular people are "blinded" in a different way . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:46 AM | link to this | reply

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I guess that's true, MsJudy. Spanky from the Little Rascals said it best when he exclaimed "Yeah, it's bad everywhere!" I can only hope that the considerate people still outnumber the inconsiderate ones, but sometimes I just don't know . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:44 AM | link to this | reply

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Borrow, Annicita? You mean I never returned it from last time? Hey, I guess I'm allowed to vent once in a while, and this has been bothering me for a long time now. Don't worry . . . I'll return your soapbox as soon as possible, and I promise not to crush it or break it!

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:41 AM | link to this | reply

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Perhaps, adnohr. It's not necessarily a blanket assessment. I'm sure we've all been guilty of "blocking the aisle" at least once or twice in our lives. But there are those who seem to make it quite obvious that they really don't care if someone else is trying to get passed them or not! Those are the ones with two blinders firmly in place . . .  

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM | link to this | reply

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An interesting analysis, Kabu, and a different use of those blinders. For me it invokes such terms as rigid, inflexible, stubborn. And that can probably be construed as selfish and inconsiderate too! But this "blinder society" concept I've developed is more for those people who go about their daily business with almost no consideration whatsoever for those around them, which, to me, is far worse . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:34 AM | link to this | reply

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That doesn't really bother me, Utah. You can take three days to decide if you want Skippy or Jiff for all I care! Just move out of the way! But I believe that your other comparison is between blinders and rose-colored glasses, another concept altogether, and probably a topic for another day . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:25 AM | link to this | reply

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Well, mariss, that's why I say that these particular people sometimes seem to feel that they are the only ones on the planet, and your mere presence is an "inconvenience" to them! And unfortunately, their numbers are growing . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:21 AM | link to this | reply

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It does seem to be getting worse, FSI, and it is sad! I know sometimes we all may "zone out" for a spell and not realize where we are or who is around us. But then there are those who make it obvious that they don't care who is around them, and do whatever they wish, no matter how rude or inconsiderate it may be. Those are the cretins who purposefully put on those blinders . . .

posted by JimmyA on July 11, 2013 at 5:19 AM | link to this | reply

Add the race blinders for there are those who just insist on declaring, explaining and justifying obviously that THEY pick on a race due to history and invisible blinder that a person is automatically a victim. Excellent post!

posted by Dr_JPT on July 11, 2013 at 12:43 AM | link to this | reply

JimmyA

I notice most of those blinded today are  pot users who drink alcohol.

posted by WileyJohn on July 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM | link to this | reply

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I notice most of those blinded today are  pot users who drink alcohol.

posted by WileyJohn on July 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM | link to this | reply

LOL people are the same no matter what part of the world or country that you live in!

posted by MsJudy on July 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM | link to this | reply

oh seems you needed to borrow my soapbox....

posted by Annicita on July 10, 2013 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply

Good description. I've been guilty of the store aisle blocking , but move immediately when I notice someone is trying to pass and even apologize. Guess I'm only wearing one invisible blind.

posted by adnohr on July 10, 2013 at 1:29 PM | link to this | reply

I will dare to say that people also wear blinders when it comes to the  political party they don't like. I see people who see it as my way or the high way and nothing in between. And to me that is the death of Democracy as we knew it.

posted by Kabu on July 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM | link to this | reply

And of course, there are those who refuse to see the world around them, they wish it to be a world of roses and refuse to see the world and the flames that consume it. And oh yes, those folks who block the asile in the grocery store trying to make their mind up about peanut butter...Should they buy Skippy, or Jiff, this alone can take up to 15 minutes.

posted by UtahJay on July 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM | link to this | reply

I'm surrounded, but the brightest and the best ones will get stop you in the road and get on you for gettting in their way after they pulled out of an illegal space when you were pullling into the lane legally. 

posted by mariss9 on July 10, 2013 at 11:48 AM | link to this | reply

The concept of invisible blinders makes a lot of sense to me...I too have noticed that more and more of them are appearing. Before I got to the portion of your entry about cellphones, I was thinking about them...Sadly, I only see it getting worse and worse.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on July 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM | link to this | reply