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I totally agree, mariss. That's why I wrote that the word cheating is usually connotative of something negative, but sometimes it's actually not so negative! It's open to many interpretations, and people see many sides to it. I guess it's sometimes subjective . . .

posted by JimmyA on April 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM | link to this | reply

This is so complicated now, when cheating death or slavery, I am for it if that is a valid use of the word cheating, I view it as righting a wrong and Like It.  I am glad for any loophole anyone can find in a flawed justice system to make things right.

posted by mariss9 on April 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM | link to this | reply

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Wow, Against! I've never heard of that one! I suppose that would be considered cheating on the grandest of scales! But we would be opening up a HUGE can of worms if we were to now begin discussing the numerous ways in which the various governments from around the world participate in cheating! I think we would be better off keeping this discussion as simplistic as possible  . . . 

posted by JimmyA on April 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM | link to this | reply

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Aah, so that's your game, huh TAPS? See what you can get away with as a "senior citizen!" Well, that's okay! As long as you "fess up" later, we'll forgive you . . .  

posted by JimmyA on April 24, 2013 at 6:40 AM | link to this | reply

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I suppose someone could, Naut. But if they do, I want credit for the idea!  Yes, cheating does have a wide range of concepts, and you're right . . . there could never be one, clear-cut definition. But it's interesting to think about, isn't it?  

posted by JimmyA on April 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM | link to this | reply

I recall in the movie, Amazing Grace, the abolitionist faction of the British faction resorted to a form of cheating, that is, they addressed a shipping issue that was seemingly too boring for many of the legislators to attend, and in the process they passed a measure--relating to ship banners and the issue of neutrality--that rendered it unfeasible for slave ships to continue to operate.

posted by Against4WindsOn2Flam on April 23, 2013 at 9:17 PM | link to this | reply

Actually, under certain circumstances, I think it is fun to cheat.  And then it is even more fun to 'fess up to it and laugh at the others expressions.  Mostly it is fun because no one expects it from an old lady.

posted by TAPS. on April 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM | link to this | reply

Jimmy

The term 'cheating' covers so many areas, some trivial and other's very serious, it's virtually impossible to come up with a single definition that makes sense. But one could possibly write a book...

posted by Nautikos on April 23, 2013 at 8:57 AM | link to this | reply

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You're probably right, lustor. "Cheating Death" is not something we have any control over, but whether or not it's actually a form of cheating is really moot. I guess it's more of a "second chance" than anything else . . .  

posted by JimmyA on April 23, 2013 at 8:37 AM | link to this | reply

I dont mind cheating when I dont know the answer but I wouldnt cheat on a mate or not on a game probably and the death thing is I wouldnt have a chose in that cheating

posted by Lanetay on April 23, 2013 at 8:08 AM | link to this | reply

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That's probably a general consensus, C C T. I think it's safe to say that we've all done a little bit of cheating in our lives, in one form or another. But as long as greed and/or thoughtlessness doesn't permeate the circumstance, I think we can let a few transgressions slip under the radar . . . 

posted by JimmyA on April 23, 2013 at 7:27 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Thank you for this post....

Thanks, symphony. Glad you enjoyed it. I do my best to come up with topics and generalities that I think almost anyone can relate to and feel free to comment on! You're invited any time . . . 

posted by JimmyA on April 23, 2013 at 7:23 AM | link to this | reply

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That might be, sam, but I guess it would depend on the circumstances. For example, I too did not receive the correct change back one time after getting gas at a gas station. The attendant miscounted and handed me back an extra dollar. However, I didn't notice it until well after the fact. But since I have been paying close to $4 a gallon for years now by greedy oil companies, I actually didn't lose any sleep that night because of that dollar! Oh well! Shoot me later . . . 

posted by JimmyA on April 23, 2013 at 7:20 AM | link to this | reply

As long as it does not hurt anyone I am all for it Jimmy.

posted by C_C_T on April 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM | link to this | reply

Thank you for this post....

Was really interesting so are the comments 

posted by _Symphony_ on April 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM | link to this | reply

I often wondered about getting to much change back in a transaction! One expected to get the correct amount while the other is expected to the same on behalf of the employer. But news ones, as it were, can stick together! So, it would be cheating for me if one kept the money in this example! sam 

posted by sam444 on April 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM | link to this | reply

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Really, Sir Wiley? I made a whole penny? I would consider retiring with such a vast fortune lying before me! But then again, I wouldn't want Uncle Sam on my ass over those pennies either! Don't worry . . . I won't let on about who might be cheatin' who!

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM | link to this | reply

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I think, FSI, that you mean they were glad to get away with it for as long as they did ( until it was outlawed! ). But every know and then, someone gets caught with either vasoline on their pants or a nail file under their hat! Oh those overpaid pitchers sometimes . . .  

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 1:59 PM | link to this | reply

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I must admit, jean, that when I was in school, I too had my share of "crib sheets" hidden away here and there to get through certain courses! Yeah, it was cheating, and yeah, I was probably cheating myself! But now that I look back, there's a very good chance that, in the grand scheme of things, it probably didn't matter anyway! I mean, knowing who discovered what, who invented what and when certain events took place would probably only help those who either wish to become teachers themselves someday, or are thinking about being a contestant on Jeopardy . . .

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 1:57 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Cheating is lying.

Hey, deja vu . . .

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Cheating is lying.

That's a good point too, Ciel. I believe some of those fibs may be referred to as "little white lies," those meant to spare someone's feelings. However, like you said, it all depends on who you're saying it to, and why. I suppose many people might equate lying with cheating . . .  

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM | link to this | reply

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You're absolutely right, Bill. And that's one form of cheating that I'm sure many, many people are probably guilty of, although they would never admit it . . .

posted by JimmyA on April 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply

JimmyA

I nearly passed this little gem over and went to have a snooze, I'm tired. But then the divil on me shoulder, was mad because you made a penny from my response or something like that. Then Divil said; "Now I had to think this over and realized your blogger friend is cheatin' himself and that pleases me. He won't pay his taxes on that,that's cheatin'. But you"      "Ah shuddup"

posted by WileyJohn on April 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM | link to this | reply

Yes, there acceptable forms of cheating (i.e. cheating death)...I know that Gaylord Perry's proud that he threw that spitball as was Preacher Roe.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on April 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM | link to this | reply

jimmy

what a great and fun post.  gets you to thinking about how we get by in this world.  like archie, if i were to return to school i might have to scribble some notes to take to a test to , as sometimes it is just hard to remember a name or word i want to use.  i would always study and participate in class so i would not count it cheating but getting what i paid for and worked for, a passing grade. lol

lying is another interesting thought, sometimes its good and sometimes its bad, lol

posted by jeansaw on April 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM | link to this | reply

Cheating is lying.

Cheating is when you say or give the impression that you are offering truth, but, in fact, you are lying: hiding the truth behind what you want someone to accept as truth.  How acceptible this is, depends on why you're doing it, and who you are doing it to, or for.  We lie to ourselves about that, a lot, too.

posted by Ciel on April 22, 2013 at 9:49 AM | link to this | reply

Cheating is lying.

Cheating is when you say or give the impression that you are offering truth, but, in fact, you are lying: hiding the truth behind what you want someone to accept as truth.  How acceptible this is, depends on why you're doing it, and who you are doing it to, or for.  We lie to ourselves about that, a lot, too.

posted by Ciel on April 22, 2013 at 9:49 AM | link to this | reply

JimmyA

uIf you don’t do your best you’re cheating yourself Jimmy. BC-A, Bill’s r®st

posted by BC-A on April 22, 2013 at 8:52 AM | link to this | reply