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All I can really say is that I am woman; I'm glad I am woman; and I hope to be woman for as long as I live. 
posted by
TAPS.
on November 15, 2012 at 8:22 PM
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Informative and excellent as always.
posted by
Amanda__
on November 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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Nautikos
As a 'fallen away' Catholic, I haven't got any comment on Christianity, Atheism or Islam. On top of that I really appreciate the way America started, in those days for the most part a person's religion was nobody's business and you didn't even have to have one or belong to one.
posted by
WileyJohn
on November 13, 2012 at 4:34 PM
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None of this is news to me either, and I sometimes feel that some of the core beliefs of most religions that are driven into us from a very early age are in place for one thing and one thing only . . . control. I was raised a Catholic, and for years and years and years we were taught that is was somehow wrong to eat meat on Fridays. Then one day, a cardinal or bishop came along and said "Well, that's a little archaic, so it's now dispensed with," and suddenly I was eating hamburgers on a Friday night. What does it all mean? Years ago I heard a joke that went "Under communism, man exploits man, but under capitolism, it's the other way around." I believe that pun can apply to the religious sect as well! That's just my opinion . . . 
posted by
JimmyA
on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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An eye opening read there. Not surprisingly the media is quiet.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM
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Nautikos
SIn the United States the intersection of church and state has necessitated by involvement by the church community that never participated in lobbying before Naut. Personally I would say that the interpretation of Scripture by churches should be treated as much as religious freedom as “civil rights.” However and these churches only are concerned about going against their beliefs on issues as individual congregations. Most don't discriminate against people different from them. Nor do most members make fun of them. There are Christian churches for all people. But churches are as distinctive when it comes to their own beliefs. Belief dictates practices of worship. That's the religious freedom. The same holds true for the health care facilities affiliated with churches. Similarly, the Roman Catholic Church now expresses concern about these issues in the national political process. Evidently Islam in the United States could claim the writings of the founders. By the way they didn't think that the government could create a religion. They wrote, presuming that the colonists already had their religions. Then it was predominately either the Congregational (Puritan) or Anglican. But, Islam could now claim freedom of religion to practice their belief in the supremacy of men over women. Only polygamy would contradict Western culture. I’ll tell you Naut that easy divorce isn't distinctive to Islam Hollywood celebrities notwithstanding. The rest wouldn't be criminal criminal. But the laws would treat it similarly to white collar crime. IN example it’s equivalent in ethics to the practices of the management of mortgages by Fannie Mae. So legal issues would cause conflict in the inheritance practices of these Islamic sects. They would end up in court or arbitration in the Western culture of gender. Women have rights in the United States. For myself and admittedly prejudiced by my own tradition women have those rights in the United States. Obviously this tradition of Islam contradicts other aspects of the American way. But most Muslims are nice people. I've dealt with members of Muslim mosques in business transactions. They’re nice. BC-A, Bill’s R®st
posted by
BC-A
on November 13, 2012 at 5:29 AM
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Re: I am no authority on Islam or on any religion for that matter. But I
Straightforward, I would really be interested in the 'many writings in Islam which express differently on the issue of gender equality.' If you've read so many, maybe you could help me out and cite a few?
posted by
Nautikos
on November 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM
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I am no authority on Islam or on any religion for that matter. But I
have read so many writings in Islam which express differently on the issue of gender equality. Similarly, I have read so many writings which profess to be Christian which are archaic in their views on gender equality and so also there are writings which profess to be Christian such as liberation theology writings which are so progressive. So I would like to take the progressive understandings in any religion as being the real religion and move on. That's my approach.
posted by
Straightforward
on November 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM
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