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Re: It has been a very, very long time since evolution was considered

"only a theory." All rational scientists accept it as adequately proven.   It is the basis of all the life sciences, and our understanding of the world as it really is. 

I am not afraid of my God, not even if I have been wrong about some things: my God is not petty about such things as human imperfection.  Creationism is scary to me because it leads otherwise intelligent people astray, creates a roadblock in thinking, and, if you will pardon the word, the evolution of our society.

If your God can only exist through the acceptance of patently absurd beliefs, then there is something wrong with that fundamental concept of God.  My God exists quite easily with the idea of evolution being a marvelous tool of creation.  My God is not threatened by metaphoric interpretations of the always-limited packaging of human language.

I have faith that even if it is challenging to accept a new idea, it can be true anyway, and God will handle making it all come out right in the end.

posted by Ciel on August 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM | link to this | reply

And evolution is an unproved pipe-dream of a theory, which has never been proved correct: because it's impossible. Creationism is just scary toyou because if their is a god than someday you will have to answer. Denial is one of the first coping mechanisms instinctively used by people, but if you want go ahead and keep living it: while you can.

posted by scratchingthesurface on May 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel, I like this way of looking at Eden.

I have read some Bible history, and anyone who wants to take it seriously really should, too.  Not the history in the Bible, but of the Bible.  It gets a lot more meaningful and powerful when it is reconciled with nature, which science reveals.

 

posted by Randir on May 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x, some of us know it.

Creationism makes a lot of noise, but I don't think there are that many educated people who actually believe it.  They just cluster in some areas, and change school curriculum to make sure their kids will be as ignorant as they are.

 

posted by Randir on May 28, 2012 at 10:57 AM | link to this | reply

what makes us different from the apes is our brain

that constructs complicated things

and thinks complicated thoughts

and contemplates matters far beyond the immediate environment

other than that, we are still very ape-like -- but we don't know it.

creationism has blocked our vision in that regard

posted by Xeno-x on May 28, 2012 at 8:10 AM | link to this | reply

I love the way you look at things

 

posted by calia14 on May 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM | link to this | reply

BTW

I posted an answer to your population questions...

posted by Nautikos on May 11, 2012 at 6:21 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel

We might even evolve to the point where everyone understands evolution...

posted by Nautikos on May 11, 2012 at 6:20 AM | link to this | reply

Some people lean more back to ape than forward to angel.

posted by Randir on May 10, 2012 at 12:20 PM | link to this | reply

Pat B, it is more evident all the time that we are not the only smart ones.

Those birds, and some others, and octopus, and elephants, dolphins and whales, dogs and cats and some fish...  We share the world with a lot of other minds, and we are all evolving.  Well, we, not so fast anymore, since we got involved in management. A thousand years might not be enough, but further down the road could be a pretty amazing world! 

I wonder if any of our children will be there to see it.

posted by Ciel on May 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM | link to this | reply

Indeed!

Good luck with those tools and that lint. :) 

BTW, I've been watching documentaries on Ch. 9 about crows / ravens, and how they make tools, have rudimentary language and recognize human faces. Another thousand years and they'll be ????

posted by Pat_B on May 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM | link to this | reply