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I find it interesting to read about this history.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on March 20, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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Re: Actually I find the research to be revelatory, so tragic for both peoples
Katray I can also see the your lack of historical knowledge of Jewish people who existed in thier religion almost five thousand years before the Muslim religion became a reality. I stand by my stance and I am sure you do as well. I believe neither of us will convience the other of another side. Real history of both will show who came first and who was plagarized. I don't want to argu with you. I have made it clear there will come times when parties disagree and there is no way there will be a coming together of opinions on this because I cannot convience you to see the situation is totally as is predicted, it will continue and news today of Russia's step with Seria simply adds to the conflice. I appreciate your opinions but this is one of those times; we will not come together on this.
posted by
Justi
on March 19, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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I agree with Taps! And you are right there is no winning here whatsoever! sam 
posted by
sam444
on March 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM
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Actually I find the research to be revelatory, so tragic for both peoples
and inspiring in more ways than one, Justi. You know, I admire and respect the Jewish people everywhere they live. In Israel, one can see how the militant extremism of their leadership has done great harm to the citizenry there - exposing them to retaliation, counter Islamic extremism and preventing any sense of security or peace.
posted by
Katray2
on March 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM
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Katray
You must be tired looking for all the material you could find to refute this. Keep looking this holds no dust. There will be no meating of the minds here. I cleared all this the other day. One can make anything they want become an argument. Your information holds water; however, it is not the whole story and there is no meeting of the minds on this. 
Thank you for reading me.
posted by
Justi
on March 19, 2012 at 9:50 AM
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Irrefutable by whose standard?
"When Theodor Herzl wrote The Jewish State and soon afterward, in 1894, called the first Zionist Congress, there were about 60,000 Jews in Palestine, living as a minority among a much larger Arab population."
from "The Jewish Paradox" authored by Nahum Goldmann, a leading Zionist and the founder and longtime president of the World Jewish Congress.
(globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/zionism/nahum_zio_israel.htm)
Israel/Palestine has been the homeland of non Jewish Arabs too; none of the assertions in this post explain why they still do not have a state in their homeland.
posted by
Katray2
on March 19, 2012 at 6:10 AM
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Good post. Thank you for going to the trouble of compiling that for us.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 19, 2012 at 12:46 AM
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