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For me pragmatism is of the essence! I liked the in and out and the coming together to for a whole picture of getting along or through a day or life as it were! sam
posted by
sam444
on September 13, 2010 at 7:14 AM
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Hmmm CC well I must say if this is the 'gutter' of your creative ability, could you share room in the gutter?
I cannot analyze this but only enjoy the profound depth and mystery this poem of yours alludes to. And seems like, wanderlust setting in. Time for the tarmac to rub those sole's holes ... maybe?

EE
posted by
elysianfields
on September 11, 2010 at 7:33 AM
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Thank you csherloc I was just in the mind of the man collecting cigarette ends they used to be fairly well distributed along the gutters in the old days.
posted by
C_C_T
on September 11, 2010 at 5:48 AM
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Dog end
I was with you in the beginning,then I got lost for awhile. In the end the picture got clearer. I must say water fits the shape of the vessel, and finds its own level, our thoughts do the same.
posted by
csherloc
on September 11, 2010 at 3:58 AM
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FS Well thank you. A lot of this is true there used to be two or three regulars even one with a house and son working . I think it became an obsession, I used to think it horrible to watch them stoop and collect cigarette ends, remember nearly everyone smoked and in wartime you guys used to have extra long cigarettes a real bonus and were not down to the lips smokers. Some used to hold with a pin to get the last few draws.
posted by
C_C_T
on September 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM
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Yes times are hard as well for butt end smokers Bill at my last inventory I only notice two all the way up the street and one of them was tipped, life don't doesn't get any easier.
posted by
C_C_T
on September 10, 2010 at 10:53 PM
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CORNCAKE
J You have to play with the weather sir. BC-A, Bill’s RJLst
posted by
BC-A
on September 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM
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The thoughts just flow so smoothly. I like the way your speakers assess their situations in their own unique ways. Each one is different from the other.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on September 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM
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Being an ugly American I am not sure what a dog end is but I suppose it is what's left of a spent cigarette, as for rolling your own as you describe I have done this many a time when tobacco ruled my life. But as for running against the creative wall I understand that perfectly, you write like many dream to one day...beautifully.
posted by
UtahJay
on September 10, 2010 at 10:43 AM
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Sounds wonderful Bob. It is amazing what some folk will do or create not only to give pleasure to themselves but to others also. Sadly Bob there are thousands who stay in bed and I shouldn't think they even dream. As I was telling lionreign people used to pick up the cigarette buts and shred them and roll cigarettes. I remember I was only a small boy this American soldier lit a cigarette one of those long ones and then he noticed a girl in a white smock approaching and he threw the cigarette into the gutter. An Angel in white for a few years, Time is a destroyer

I hope you are telling your wife she is getting roses.
posted by
C_C_T
on September 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM
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C.C...
"I am kicking the gutter of my creative ability" - you hit us right between the eyes with your opening statement because I think we can all say we've been there and done that a time or two...maybe even felt like throwing in the towel and giving up, although what appears to be a dog end right now, may slowly straighten itself out...then we can leave the shelter of the bus shelter and retrieve that fallen object: - our creativity.

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posted by
Rumor
on September 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM
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Thank you lionriegn this was a well known practise once. I went into an alms house once and this chap we call toebags had a big pile of tobacco on the table. Look Mike he said what do you reckon of this. Very prolific I replied have one of mine.
posted by
C_C_T
on September 10, 2010 at 8:27 AM
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This is intense and a little bleak, very well wwritten
posted by
lionreign
on September 10, 2010 at 8:16 AM
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Why do I say "I know just what you mean. This time." But I do!
I was thinking of you yesterday when I took my walk in New Jersey's lovely Skyland Manor, an unusual botanical garden, small but spectacular. If ever by some chance you were to come over, you'd love it. Rhododendron/hosta/Japanese garden with a sign, please close gate after you, annual and perenniel gardens, a quarter-mile long "Allee" (spelling mine) of crabapple trees with "THE LODGE" at one end and statuary depicting the four continents at the other. The woody parts are laid out carefully and are such a woodland as you might walk, expecting to find a Hobbit around the next bend, sitting and smoking his pipe! Incredible place with a stone mansion on an overlook. You'd love it!
posted by
2902
on September 10, 2010 at 5:10 AM
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