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I think that like most people I measure people by how well they fulfil my most common needs

posted by lionreign on November 3, 2010 at 9:14 AM | link to this | reply

Waiting with an open heart
I think we all wait for God for no matter what our achievements and gifts may be, they are all incomplete, all ultimately negated without an eternal hope. Blessings and peace

posted by RoseyP on October 22, 2010 at 3:52 PM | link to this | reply

On Human Worth ...
An  --EXTREMELY--  profound question! Another element to this is what's COGNITION worth?  We have NO IDEA what the universe is, but if it's all just space  eternally in all directions full of billions of trillions of galaxies- and Not some kind of being itself, then all of that can't produce a single thought, while the little blob of biology that a human being ( or possibly other ailien being ) is, -can ...  THAT -is ASTOUNDING!

posted by NeomancerNorthStar on September 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Worth is in core relationships with other human beings, with the other
I would love to hear more of your thoughts about this, Straightforward!  What do you mean by 'core relationships?'

posted by Ciel on September 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM | link to this | reply

Re: I do think children need to be taught to think

That sounds like an excellent way to produce kids who will contribute to the sanity of the world, and also have balance between thinking and feeling.  Maybe that is where insight comes from, in fact--a synergy of that balance?

 

posted by Ciel on September 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM | link to this | reply

Re: read your post about insight, Ciel

Fair enough, this is what the prompts are for!

Don't  know about how insight can be taught or if it is just a thing that comes along with certain genes, now and then.  As to hope for the human race...

This reminds me of the fractal nature of the Universe, as I believe it to be.  As to that 'small still voice'--which I gather you refer to deliberately as the catch-phrase for that which various religions recommend-- 'the small still voice' that is the quiet input of intuition, of the heart's awareness, or the effect of all the things that we observe subconsciously, on our conscious thoughts and feelings: the conscience of the individual.  Maybe 'insight' is another word for that, or part of it.

Maybe 'insight' as I referred to it in that other post is in fact the voice of a kind of racial conscience that arises quietly and speaks its understanding, its truth, and yet will always tend to be drowned out by all the noise around it.

For the individual, it is personal immediate wants and desires, urges and impulses.  The loud, demanding voice of selfishness, self-centeredness.

For the human race, it is the same stuff on a grander scale.

posted by Ciel on September 15, 2010 at 11:46 AM | link to this | reply

Worth is in core relationships with other human beings, with the other
living creatures and with the earth

posted by Straightforward on September 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM | link to this | reply

I do think children need to be taught to think
We did this with our kids...but we did take them to church...we allowed them to attend with others if they wanted to. We had open discussions and still do now that they are grown.  They never felt forced or coerced.

posted by poetjpb on September 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM | link to this | reply

Re: worth...

Thanks, JPB, for adding your thoughts here.

I see also that in certain circles, children are likewise molded with religious ideas every bit as much as our secular society molds them with academic ideas. 

I can't help but believe there is truth offered by both approaches to comprehending the Universe and our place in it, but I emphatically believe that children should be taught how to think, how to learn, not what to see, or to believe.  We should trust them to find answers and truth, and we should trust Truth to speak for itself!

Maybe such a course of letting and allowing would produce more poets and artists, giving freer expression to those aspects of each person...?

posted by Ciel on September 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM | link to this | reply

read your post about insight, Ciel

How do we learn that?  How do we help other people to learn it
?  Is it a window that opens for a while in a child, like the learning-windows for language and altruism?  If the window closes, can someone still learn it?  Or do we have to be born with it? 

Is there any hope for Man if the mass of shallow-thinking, narrow-minded, gut-reacting humanity overcomes the "small still voice" of insightful humanity?

I know this does not exactly address the prompt you put up here, but that prompted me to these thoughts.

 

posted by Randir on September 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM | link to this | reply

worth...
I am worthy as God's creation.  Worth is measured in many ways.  Emotional intelligence is not favored enough in my opinion.  Children are molded and forced into an academic mold.  What would the world be without the artists and poets?

posted by poetjpb on September 13, 2010 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply