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The world keeps getting smaller and smaller.
It's fascinating to look back on the roots of our family tree.
posted by
yellowrose55
on August 1, 2010 at 9:30 PM
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Carl, We are all immigrants to North America, including the native American Indians, which the whites attempted to expunge for convenience sake. I find it interesting how the Latinos are overtaking other minorities and leading whites into minority status, in the next decades.
"Mixed" is becoming an acceptable and unquestioned social heritage.
I find it very interesting in fact, the way large-group political groups are banding together using (in most cases) non-violent persuasion to affect the outcome. It's absurd. We need to learn to work together, but that will never happen as long as political leaders preach American exceptionalism, defensiveness, division and hate. Where are the clear thinkers in this age of crisis? These combinations of events have been recorded as the harbinger of dying civilizations. We need good clear thinkers like you, not shouters.
posted by
dsm_tchr
on August 1, 2010 at 1:27 PM
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Re: Hey, the scene of the immigrant heritage may in many ways be due to how
Yes, there is hypocrisy on many fronts. Perhaps, some other countries should deport American-based multinational corporations.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM
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Hey, the scene of the immigrant heritage may in many ways be due to how
Big Brother America traded world.
posted by
Straightforward
on July 31, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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Thank you, Marta!
xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Carl Peter
posted by
cpklapper
on July 31, 2010 at 10:17 AM
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Fabulous write Carl... It shines unexpected clarity light on the subject matter. Bravo! xoxoxo
posted by
Sinome
on July 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Hmmm?...Very educational, Carl..
It is all well-established stuff but inconvenient for the Democratic Party agenda that the NYT follows. With amnesty under the immigration laws, you can have someone beholden to you whereas with repeal you cannot.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 29, 2010 at 7:07 PM
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Re: Re: Hmmm?...Very educational, Carl..
perhaps you should publish this in the NY times..I bet will be a shocking revelation to many! - Ash
posted by
ash_pradhan
on July 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM
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No shame if I am reading it right, which I am not sure at all of.
posted by
mariss9
on July 29, 2010 at 3:12 PM
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Thanks! It would have been a different country today if we learned the native tongues then and used more of the native approach to law and property.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 29, 2010 at 2:44 PM
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Re: Powerful AND debatable!
Thank you, ash.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM
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Re: The shame of my illegal immigrant heritage
It was a satirical piece, showing how hypocritical a position is held by those who blame their woes on "illegal immigrants".
Being of the Sherman-Delano line, myself, I have several notable people in U. S. history to whom I am related.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 29, 2010 at 2:39 PM
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I like how you draw the paraelles from back then to today. In a sense what has been going on in this country remains unchanged.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on July 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM
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Re: Hmmm?
They violated English land grant laws which determined the legality of immigration into "Virginia", that being the name for British North America. The Mayflower, being blown off course and of questionable seaworthiness after the passage, failed to reach even the most generous and broadly drawn borders of the grant to the London Company for their settlement in "Northern Virginia". The colonists, knowing that breaking those laws by landing would result in anarchy in their outlaw settlement, remedied their dilemma by establishing a new legal path to colonization through declaring a new body politic by a social compact, The Mayflower Compact, thereby declaring all immigration laws null and void with respect to that body politic and any body politic resulting from their colonization. However, the current US posture of asserting the validity of United States immigration laws -- despite their unconstitutionality, I might add -- countermands the Mayflower Compact and, through it, the Constitution of the United States of America while also returning my ancestors to "illegal" status under English law.
posted by
cpklapper
on July 29, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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Powerful AND debatable!
posted by
ash_pradhan
on July 29, 2010 at 8:20 AM
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Hmmm?
What law or laws were they violating?
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 29, 2010 at 7:45 AM
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The shame of my illegal immigrant heritage
My ancestor John, left his home in England in 1731 for this country. The town he left was founded by forbearers bears our last name. His reason for leaving, and sailing as a deck hand to an unknown future: He said he was sick and tired of the crown and monarchy pressing on his neck, so he thought it best to leave with it still intact. He married a woman he met in Ma., and their two sons fought in the Revolutionary War, One was killed at Jamestown. There's more but don't want to bore you.
But I certainly am proud of my heritage and the people of courage who saw it through. joab
posted by
joab3
on July 29, 2010 at 7:36 AM
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