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Re: "One universe" does not follow from "one God"
Interesting thought, but I still say on earth as it is in heaven is one and the same. The universe is both quantitative and qualitative. Please read "Physics Standard Model and God" and give me your thoughts.

posted by Jodysmith on July 12, 2010 at 10:33 AM | link to this | reply

"One universe" does not follow from "one God"
For one thing, C. S. Lewis posits multiple physical universes in Narnia and presents them quite convincingly.  For another, the "earth" and "heaven" of Genesis are two universes, one physical and one spiritual.  Indeed, in mathematical logic, we speak of a "universe of discourse" in which the expressions "for all x" and "there exists x".  Russell's paradox shows the pitfalls of a universal universe of discourse as in the untyped set theory.  Godel's theorem shows that even Russell's "fix" of types is not sufficient for humans to formulate a complete and sound concept of a universal universe.  Logic therefore argues against "one universe" having any human meaning.  "One God", however, is an understandable concept as Moses understood it, namely as Existence itself: "I AM THAT I AM".  Its singularity is based on that concept rather than a set property, whereas "one universe" is based on a set property rather than a concept.

posted by cpklapper on July 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM | link to this | reply