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I never really thought about the whole guilt factor. I wonder if America will go through guilt like that.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on April 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM
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I see the logic there.
A great deal of guilt must be associated with Europe's past actions; and much of the chaos resulting. This is a process, as I see it, of repentance, and working through the consequences of past actions.
It would seem, though, from how you (and the author of the book) described the situation, that Europeans have become somewhat imbalanced in their laying a burden of guilt on their shoulders, possibly overreacting.
However, much needs to be done. We see a Third World still trying to get itself aright again, and catch up in so many ways with the West (and North). Reasonable efforts aimed at assistance in that regard should be made, and reasonable factions in the Third World will certainly appreciate that.
In regard to the Palestinians, though, I view them as being in a position similar to that of indigenous Americans when their land was being taken away from them. People will fight when uprooted from land that they believe is rightfully theirs. There is bitterness there; and much of the Arab World harbors bitterness toward Israel due to a perception that Arab land was taken.
posted by
Xeno-x
on April 28, 2010 at 1:36 PM
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As Leonardo Di Vinci said,
“All our knowledge has its origins in our perceptions.” I think that guilt also can be added to that. Why do we let our perceptions run rampant ahead of us and ruin so much for us?
posted by
TAPS.
on April 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM
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I enjoy reading your thoughts and opinions, dear Naut.
posted by
hazel_st_cricket
on April 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM
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What a revelation for me! It makes so much sense! I am really pondering these thoughts. I have always thought that in time of need my country was sought out. It was nice to read that, I think by and large we try to help other rather than beset them. Shelly
I read your comment on part 2 of the conclusion. I wanted you to know that I did not have to read closely to understand what you meant. Your comment further complements my thought and belief that you are a just man as I have referred to in the past. My story is not easy to read as you have stated but you would recognize my personal tenet, i.e. my faith in God and thus recognize accordingly. It is an appreciation for what worked(s) for me. And that is why you are so special to me and honored you are my bro, for it is not about religion but faith in what one chooses. Thank you! Love you my dear Bro!
posted by
sam444
on April 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM
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This will be very interesting.
posted by
Amanda__
on April 28, 2010 at 5:53 AM
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Naut......
this is very similar to the concept put forth by Shelby Steele......"White Guilt" I remember our discussions over this a couple of years back....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on April 28, 2010 at 3:29 AM
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I will continue Tzippy's Mmmmmm with my own Hmmmmmmm... for I , being one myself, do not believe that Psychologists should be trying to change policies... Their job is to explain how those policies came to be as the author of your book seems to be doing and to listen to the policy makers so that while the politicians, the ones in charge talk to them, they can hear themselves and thus understand their own motivations for whatever policies they are creating. But to go so far as to predict the future when so much is at stake... is just not only not a Psychologist's job but its not possible... There are too many variants and human beings are just too different in their sameness to be grouped together and generalized by academics. Too much margin for error. :-) xoxoxo
posted by
Sinome
on April 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM
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I remember you have indeed written on this topic
some time ago...
I think maybe we engaged in discussion over it?
posted by
Ciel
on April 27, 2010 at 8:33 PM
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a psychological look at our global national behavior..mmmm
I never thought about this at all, but it is something worth pondering in the dark of the night when you can't sleep.
I read an amazing book the other night and one of the things he mentions is that part of our very very long past history, the pale white man was considered possessed and was hunted down and killed and tortured by the darker man. It somehow rang so true to me and than I thought of the cycles of how things just go round and round and always end up where it started. I guess I will call it the cycle of nature
posted by
Tzippy
on April 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM
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