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This reminded of when I was in college! The first year all the women had to be in their dorms by a certain hour and signed in! And the men roamed free! I believe the thinking was to keep the women under wraps and it would make it easier to keep the men in line! O, so happy those days are over! It just gave me that feel from reading this, how women seem to be locked up in one form or another for a control thing! Shelly

posted by
sam444
on March 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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It's amazing how much a grip some of these Mullahs get over the countries they are in.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on March 9, 2010 at 4:20 PM
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Re: Nautikos
Nope. Faithful muslims deem dogs to be unclean.

joab
posted by
joab3
on March 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM
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I appreciate your sense of humor, dry tho' it may be..:)
My observations show my reasons for discussing the article/interview - doesn't sound like you read it fully, but no matter, I was glad to read the one disclaimer you included in this post:
"I do not claim that all Mullahs would share the extreme views of these chaps"
the rest of your sentence:
..."but the second class status of women is enshrined in the Koran" - and it is also rejected by vast numbers of moderate Muslims.
..."and widely accepted in Muslim countries to varying degrees." Here we somewhat agree; Saudi Arabia being the worst case. It's really tragic that governments which oppress and abuse any portion of their populations are not held accountable by the world community and are instead enabled - yes, it is all about oil and it can be called a conspiracy but conspiracies can be true, regardless of how dismissive the enablers are.
Well, Naut, it seems to me that your research and writing is selective and subjective - hope this doesn't offend, but I call them as I see them. Interactive and real debate is nigh impossible on such narrow terms. So I elect, as time allows, to post my reactions to misinformation and the fervor of baseless paranoia in my blog. I'm sure you will be a steady reader - LOL! 
Anyway, it's been interesting and eye opening, this so called debate and I thank you for that. Now, I'll let you get back to the choir and appetites for blinding, follow-the-leader bias.
posted by
Katray2
on March 9, 2010 at 7:36 AM
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Naut this is getting so weird that I truly am beginning to question the sanity of people that would listen to those mad men...follow such laws ... I am torn between laughing out loud at the ridiculeness of it all or feeling sad for those poor women who live under those terrible conditions and perhaps don't know there is a better world out there where they can be whatever they want to be. I am sure there will be someone saying that they choose to live like that... I doubt that if given the choice to change things they would stay as they are. Be well xoxoxo
posted by
Sinome
on March 8, 2010 at 9:08 PM
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Nautikos
Sounds like this entire matter is going to the dogs,...
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 8, 2010 at 8:00 PM
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would it be better to be an ass or an old Nag...........
posted by
Kabu
on March 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM
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Last I heard, the guy in Australia was voted out by his own people.
posted by
Kabu
on March 8, 2010 at 7:13 PM
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