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Sounds like it would be a long course
You may be able to tell curriculum design has been one of my interests. 
"Just too bad I have no Muslim ‘students’ in this ‘course’…"
Ah, but we never know who our readers are.
posted by
Azur
on February 25, 2010 at 1:25 PM
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Damn! That's a long one, Naut.
Very well written though and interesting.
posted by
Hackthorne19
on February 24, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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As an alien here in this beautiful country...I am finding that I and my
close family have been scrutinised pretty closely and it is taking a lot of time for me to be granted permanent residency. To become a full citizen I will have to be here for three years... that is after the permanent residency granting, they then start counting. If I have been here for three years before P.residency, that equals 18 months towards the three year count...so after I get that all important paper there is still a long wait...then you apply and it is go through more expensive scrutiny and an exam. I don't see me doing it.
So.......if it so tough for a very law abiding genuinely loving wife, with her husband happy to sponsor her to be accepted.....I just wonder how trouble makers and people who want to come here and change the country get to stay when the scrutiny is so strict. Now I believe that one strike against you should mean you are packed off where you came from even if it was a refugee camp.To be given the gift of living in such freedom and such an affluent country should not be allowed to be an abused gift.
posted by
Kabu
on February 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM
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deporting a group of people who pause a threat to our life
should not be difficult, but in todays atmosphere is not going to happen. Writing and informing is NOT just words, its very important and I am very glad this discussion is going on. You just never know what will develope. It will take only one brave soul to make the change we need. And a bunch of other souls to follow. What should be done, as what CAN be done now should be the question we address. There are many things that can be done. Education is the first....
posted by
Tzippy
on February 24, 2010 at 8:19 PM
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Too bad we can't get you to Loyola College to take your course. If that was offered in a seminar format I would be honored to take it...Deporting any one group of people is difficult. I think the rules you propose would help.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on February 24, 2010 at 7:44 PM
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Religion is a nasty thing without the love of God. Love allows all their
own beliefs without force and control.
Any group that wants to live in a free society needs to abide by the laws of that free society, not the other way around. They cannot force their small ideas and dogmas on the masses. Everyone should practice their own religions behind closed doors or in an open society without any force or threat to others. Ah, yes, in a perfect world.
Keep up the voice of reason, Nautikus. If I didn't believe in God, I'd be an Ayn Rand Objectivist as that is the only system that makes sense to me outside of my convictions. Most religions are totally wacko without the true love of God. Ariala.
posted by
Ariala
on February 24, 2010 at 6:49 PM
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I have perused the Koran, Naut and again it is the interpretation that matters; obviously these postings are based on yours. I understand what you mean about repeating yourself..:)
I must admit to being perplexed over why you continue to downplay the role played by Saudi Arabia's government/ruling family in the terroristic realm and U.S. government complicity - of course, they have played and continue to play a direct role; 9-11 felt pretty direct from where I sit - far from limited to just funding the schools and/or the need for oil (the official excuse, shown to be misleading and incorrect by Daniel Pipes, among others) Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were Saudis, as I'm sure you are aware of. And that is not the only implication.
Speaking of speaking out, where was the German Christian's strident voice of protest during Hitler's reign of terror?
And where are the Catholic voices - speaking out loud and clear against the multiple sexual abuses, violations of trust, childhood innocence and life itself by so many of their priests..
(mental illnesses triggered, suicides committed as a direct result of this long term tyranny)
Not saying they were not or are not there; drowned out perhaps...
The world is not painted just one shade of ugliness and danger.
posted by
Katray2
on February 24, 2010 at 6:30 PM
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Nautikos
Thank you for your response my friend, alrighty then I'll take down the barbed wire and go with your 5 year plan and other changes to citizenship rules. They do have to be made to obey the laws of Canada and we really have to separate church and state so that we all don't wind up swearing oaths on the Quaran. No worries, from what I've read in Nostradamus 3 Arab staes or countries will solve it all by going after each other and solving the problem.
posted by
WileyJohn
on February 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM
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I like the idea of making it difficult to enter a country and a waiting period before they can be citizens! It is too automatic for me at times! Shelly
posted by
sam444
on February 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM
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Naut
My comment about Little Satan: Yes I know what they claim about him as not the son of God. I also know we who follow him are called, particularly by Iranian powers and others that we are the Little Satan. It is the follower not the personage. They do not consider Jews to be Big Satan but followers. Pride in some knowledge of a subject is not always the answer to the question.
posted by
Justi
on February 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM
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