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Re: Re: Re: Re: It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue
Thank God your parents did not believe that way...fight the indoctrined leftist crap and use some common sense will ya? Ya gotta start as a fetus baby; both yourself and I did! WAKE UP HONEY!

posted by RedStatesMan on December 12, 2009 at 11:18 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue
anyone not a "fetus" that is not a person yet nice try lol

posted by liberalady on December 12, 2009 at 6:20 AM | link to this | reply

Treason revisited
I want to state very clearly that going into Iraq was a betrayal of our nations trust-that is the definition of treason, and what Bush did was commit treason.  Not opinion but fact. Thanks kooka :)

Also-are there really people reading this that think gays commit more child molesting than straights?  That is totally absurd and statistically incorrect.  Just another lie for the republicans to hang their hat on.  I wonder when their house of cards will completely crumble?  Just one more stiff breeze...................


posted by liberalady on December 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM | link to this | reply

RSM, and anyone else looking for some facts
Check this page out-  http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/Homosexuality

posted by kooka_lives on December 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, you obvisouly don't care about facts
My dad is slightly off as I don't think I have ever posted any statistics.  I have however talked about the facts related to men molesting children and the majority of those men should be classified as being straight in that they are attracted to adult women and not to adult men.  The body of a young boy is much more feminine than the body of an adult man.  The only way your rational works is to classify all cases of men molesting boys as being acts of homosexuals, which as I have too often pointed out in the past, such logic would then say it is a perfectly normal heterosexual act for a man to molest a young girl.

By all rational logic you cannot classify homosexual and child molester under the same label.  The two things are truly different and have no relation at all.  This is just a case of the conservatives twisting the facts in order to justify their bigotry.  Homosexuals are people who are sexually attracted to others of their own sex.  Child molesters have something else going on which is nothing related sexual attraction and much like rape, is normally a control issue.

posted by kooka_lives on December 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: RSM,
I think my son quoted some statistics a while back, and it showed homosexuals to be less prone to abusing.  But if y ou are talking about same sex abuse, then that is not necessarily homosexual.  You let myth fog reality, fear overcome fact.

posted by Xeno-x on December 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM | link to this | reply

Re: RSM,

"So why have you made so many assumptions about homosexuals here?"

You are big on facts, logic and reasoning so I would suugest you look at the statistics on homosexuality as it relates to sex offenders....you will then be enlightened to your denial of the truth.

posted by RedStatesMan on December 11, 2009 at 7:40 AM | link to this | reply

RSM,
I saw Warren's name in an article about what is going on in Uganda.  Read it here.  He is clearly involved in what is taking place. Once more we see that you have to turn this all into personal attacks instead of actually focusing on the facts here.  But as always with you your arguments are empty and lack anything of real value, so all you can do is make the personal attacks.

And I agree, never assume anything. So why have you made so many assumptions about homosexuals here?  In fact your whole argument here is based on nothing but assumptions.

Now how would you know the difference between opinion and fact?  As far as you are concerned if you believe it then it must be fact and if you disagree with it it is then opinion. But it doesn't work that way.  WHile I do agree that liberalady's views on Bush's actions being treason are her opinions, the fact that you stated you opinion (How is Bush defending this nation treason?) as a way to prove her wrong just doesn't work.  Going into Iraq was NOT defending this nation.

posted by kooka_lives on December 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Treason?
How is Bush defending this nation treason? Your examples are your opinions...definitely not fact!

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue

"I think any time anyone decides someone should die for consensual acts between adults we need to stand up for them. "

Glad to see you are against abortion.

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Treason?
In other words-I proved my claim of treason with examples and the definition and there is no way to rebut the truth? 

posted by liberalady on December 10, 2009 at 12:47 PM | link to this | reply

Re: It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue
I agree 100%!  I think any time anyone decides someone should die for consensual acts between adults we need to stand up for them.  You know the old saying-I didn't do anything because it didn't affect me then when they came for me there was no one left to help me.  You never know what day they could decided to go after people with brown eyes or anything like that.

posted by liberalady on December 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: btw
Oh, kooka just through out Warren because he wanted to pin it on someone who is religious. Nice try kooka but your girl straightened the error out.

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 10:50 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: liberalady
Never assume anything...

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: liberalady
On what facts and basis can state that he is in denial? Where are the facts on this or is it that this is just your opinion?

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Treason?
LOL....a statement like that about Bush is so outlandish that it does not deserve a comment. Plus I have debated that so much over the years on here I am tired of debating it.

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 10:48 AM | link to this | reply

Re: It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue
Wow, sounds like nation building to me. that statement sounds like what you have accused Bush of doing for all these years...liberal contradiction...gotta love it!

posted by RedStatesMan on December 10, 2009 at 10:47 AM | link to this | reply

It's time for President Obama to be courageous on the issue
Uganda is radicalizing.  Extremism is dominating.  Our country should make it plain that enacting the death penalty for sexual actions and particularly in such a biased manner is equal to genocide or acts such as despots commit or terror cells are guilty of, and that support for Uganda's government hinges on their actions in this case.  U.N. pressure also should be applied.

posted by Xeno-x on December 10, 2009 at 8:21 AM | link to this | reply

Re: liberalady
It is Richard Cohen not Trent.  He is a "reformed" homosexual, with alot of anger towards gays, leading me to believe he is not "cured" as he calls it but in denial and angry because he is not being true to himself.  That is what happens to people to hold themselves up to impossible to meet standards.

posted by liberalady on December 10, 2009 at 5:39 AM | link to this | reply

Treason?
RSM-you are noticeably quiet regarding my claim of treason...........

btw-I know you love me LOL


posted by liberalady on December 10, 2009 at 5:33 AM | link to this | reply

Re: btw
No it is a movement by conservatives and it is very real for the people in Uganda, not here.  Kooka-you were right I apologize, I have the wrong name kinda-the guy whos book is the model is not Rick Warren, he is the author of "Coming Out Straight", I thought it was Richard Trent, but I am going to look it up again.

posted by liberalady on December 10, 2009 at 5:32 AM | link to this | reply

btw
there is no conservative right movement to take away any rights from gays, on the contrary if you listen to conservatives they move to do the exact opposite. so please listen to what they say, not what liberals say that they say. lol that confuses me,

posted by Tzippy on December 9, 2009 at 11:25 PM | link to this | reply

I am a very conservative person
but i find it very ugly when people find an excuse to hate and murder in the name of one cause or another. I am against hate for gays or anyone else, and I know that every person that is conservative feels the same way, we strive for true love.

posted by Tzippy on December 9, 2009 at 11:21 PM | link to this | reply

Ummm....

You kinda left out the real deal. I understand why you did though...you are liberalady! God, I love you...textbook liberal...just like your newfound love kookaboy!

I would never want kooka, Xman nor you to ever leave Blogit. It is a great method for me to point out the wrong to people!

Luv ya, mean it!

posted by RedStatesMan on December 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM | link to this | reply

liberalady
Lookign this neup, I think tiis Rick Warren you might be talking about.  I can't find anything about a Richard Trent linked to this.

I agree with you fully on this one.  The scary thing is there are people in this country who most likely would love to see the same kind of thing happen here.  There is a large movement from the conservatives right now to take away as many rights and privileges as possible from gays.  This group woudl love nothing more than to make homosexuals second class citizens and see them persecuted openly.

posted by kooka_lives on December 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply