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Justi
If God is in charge of death, then you can't hurry it along.
If you attempt suicide and God doesn't' want you to die, then should he not be able to stop that from happening?
If killing yourself goes against God's wishes, then that would suggest that God is not all powerful
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM
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Corbin
Assisted suicide or death counseling just because you are not able to afford the best care is unbelievable. If I can't afford to get the best of care, allow me to get what care I can and die as God intended. Don't be so crass as to offer to help me commit suicide wanting to hurry me along. I know there are those who have worked in the medical community and saw death and thought some should go before they did. I still believe God is in charge of death, he is mine anyway. I don't want to be kept alive or killed either. On the note of dying, mandatory abortions is murder, nothing short of it. Assisted suicide is murder nothing short of it.
posted by
Justi
on August 4, 2009 at 7:23 PM
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TAPS
Good to see someone else seeing this as well.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 4, 2009 at 3:08 PM
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CORBIN, NOW YOU ARE REALLY CONFUSING ME
You complain about the costs of such programs, yet you want those programs to pay for the more expensive alternatives... Even if this lady had regular health insurance, she still would have problems getting approved, and even is she did, how much of that $4000 do you think she woudl have to pay out of pocket?
The truth is that no matter what program you look at, the poor lady is screwed, unless she is wealthy. There is not a health care program out there that coudl help a person in her position. She will either be denied treatment because there is only a 5% chance it will work, or she will she to go bankrupt over the out of pocket expenses.
Insurance companies are already doing what you are sayign you are afraid of happening. They very much put a dollars value on human life. They very much look at the cost/benefit analysis. I've seen this myself, first hand.
For once try to show that anything will actually change if we went to socialized medicine. Time and time again all the complaints I have heard about what will happen, seem to already be happening with the system we have now.
If anything with the new system people like the lady in you video will be more likely to get needed medical treatment and live longer, healthier lives, because more people will have better access to the most basic needs of health care. I have no doubt myself that if we had socialized medicine a decade ago, my uncle would be alive today. He had no insurance when he got cancer and the doctors wouldn't run any test and wrote it off as bronchitis every time he went to them. After a couple of years, he finally got a job that he could afford to get insurance through and once they tested him finally, it was too late. The cancer had spread too much. If we had socialized medicine, they could have caught it much quicker and with the chances of recovering at that point, and my cousin would still have a father.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 4, 2009 at 3:08 PM
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What do you mean "will"? Aren't we already there, even without President Obama's health care plan? Everyday people are turned away from medical care because they have no/or not enough coverage and are dying in hospital emergency waiting rooms, or at home with no care or medicine.
posted by
TAPS.
on August 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM
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