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                    meditating is somethng I will get good at
                
                true dat  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM
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                    notme
                
                when "i" meditate
  it is observed that "i" am meditating.
  And then "i" can say
  to "myself"...
   
  Who is observing
  me observing me
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  meditating.
  
                
                    posted by
                    Sudanym_
                     on July 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM
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                    Re: Sinome...Thanks for your replay which has me thinking
                
                again which is something i love to do especially this subject...  
Didn't Raphael have some lovely things to add? 
    
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM
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                    I've placed these sweet comments in a drawer where I keep things I love =)
                
                
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 18, 2009 at 4:54 PM
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                Well said... for who or what we are is what it is and its better not to define "us".  When we define something we limit it to whatever we believe it is... I prefer not to have limits set on who or what I am... what about you?  I loved this poem!!!!  
  
                
                    posted by
                    Sinome
                     on July 18, 2009 at 12:51 PM
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                    From my studying all this sort of thing.....
                
                ...for quite a long time, "you" are indeed not your thoughts.   
  The observer of the thoughts is said to be the real you. That is the authentic "I".   
  What this "I" actually is, is a local concentration of energy and information made up of Cosmic Consciousness 
  and conscious of itself within the parameters of a physical body. If however you identify your "I" with your 
  physical body alone and separated from the Universal Consciousness, you are focusing in a temporary 
  phenomenon. That "I" is the ego-self with its material being, memories, etc. and that "I" will pass away one day. 
  But when you identify your "I" as part of the larger Cosmic Consciousness, you are eternal and never die... 
  
  
    
                
                    posted by
                    Raphael222
                     on July 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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                    Re: thx 2  CunningLinguist
                
                yes he is a very swell addition to the world :)  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM
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                    Dear Grand Sudan Nation...you are influencing me again...
                
                "Infintiy extends as far as one can see...
  But do we see
  or think we see?"
  "The answer to the question is...
  there is no me."
  and with that 
  The Grand Frog arose
  and went off into the woods to take a piss...
  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM
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                A most thought provoking post! sam 
  
                
                    posted by
                    sam444
                     on July 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM
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                    thx 2  CunningLinguist
                
                
                
                    posted by
                    Sudanym_
                     on July 14, 2009 at 4:17 PM
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                "Infintiy extends as far as one can see...
  But do we see
  or think we see?"
  "The answer to the question is...
  there is no me."
  and with that 
  The Grand Frog arose
  and went off into the woods to take a piss...
  
                
                    posted by
                    Sudanym_
                     on July 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM
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                    Re:  I've turned inside out and back again
                
                Well, infinity extends into every direction -- as far as I can see ;-)  
                
                    posted by
                    CunningLinguist
                     on July 14, 2009 at 3:19 PM
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                     I've turned inside out and back again
                
                

  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 14, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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                    This is a tough question.  The 'I' is the 'eye', i.e. the Observer
                
                The Seesaw. the one that sees and saw.  "You are that; all this is that; and that's all there is."  A bubble observing a bubble?  I don't think so... maybe one continuous, genuine bubble imagining many other rainbow reflecting orbs.  
                
                    posted by
                    CunningLinguist
                     on July 14, 2009 at 8:10 AM
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                Meditation= concentration and awareness. For instance, if you get "lost" in a song, you are concentrating on that song but you are not aware of it. When you meditate you are aware that you are concentrating; you observe yourself, but neither one is you.  
                
                    posted by
                    Sudanym_
                     on July 14, 2009 at 7:11 AM
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                Thoughtful, mysteria.  
                
                    posted by
                    vogue
                     on July 14, 2009 at 3:49 AM
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                    Mmmm...very interesting question and observation. The mind, where thoughts
                
                happen is but a sophisticated instrument which attempts to translate that which comes from beyond itself...You (just annother pasing thought)
    
                
                    posted by
                    Chilitree
                     on July 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM
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                    Mysteria
                
                I think I am the culmination of my thoughts (among other things, of course)  
  
                
                    posted by
                    Troosha
                     on July 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
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                    I've turned inside out and back again
                
                
  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 13, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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                    I've turned inside out and back again
                
                
  
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 13, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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                    Station to Station to the Sudan Nation...I say 
                
                I thought it was me  
what could be me
  but an
  it?
    
                
                    posted by
                    mysteria
                     on July 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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                the thought is not the person. But "it" observing the thought is not the person either. Is it? It is. It is?  
                
                    posted by
                    Sudanym_
                     on July 13, 2009 at 5:18 PM
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