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You exaggerate
they don't all have some form of STD.  I would suppose that percentage-wise, they wouild compare favorably with heteros.

What you need is to know some homosexuals.  I do, and I have yet to see anything evil i nthem.  I know many good church gonig homosexuals -- but of course they attend a church denomination that's going to hell en masse anyway -- so no matter eh?

that bit or sarcasm aside, you do need to see a bit of the world outside your own paradigm.

it's like all the biased suppositions about Blacks and welfare moms -- unless you are there or in contact with them, the stereotypical myths will abide.  Once you are in contact with reality, you will lose those mythologies.


posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM | link to this | reply

Wings, this isn't about belief at all
This is about facts and what is provable.  I have no problem at all with you disliking homosexuality.  i don't agree with it myself and do not understand how a guy could have such feelings for another man.  it is not a lifestyle that I have any interest in, and I can say all that about a Christian lifestyle as well. But since I believe in freedom and am not trying to use religious ideas to put myself as being better than other people, I follow the simple idea of live and let live when in truth what they are doing does no harm to anyone.

But facts are facts and no matter what you would like to believe, you cannot change what the facts are.  And the facts are that not all homosexuals have STDs.  That is 100% pure, provable FACT.  No amount of belief can change that FACT.  And the FACT is also that STDs are getting less and less common among homosexuals thanks to better information about them and the simple fact that as homosexuality becomes more accepted, they are pairing off with long term partners more often.  Those are all PROVABLE FACTS and it matters nto what you wish to believe , it will not change those FACTS.

Now I cannot prove you story there is propaganda, just that it very much has all the standard elements of a propaganda piece.  So I have to ask how you 'know' that the story is true.  Where did you get your information from?  What actual proof do you have outside of you desire for it to be true?

I wish you would show some level of respect for the truth and facts.  it is really disappointing that you wish to present yourself as a thinker, yet you refuse to listen to any form of logic, reasoning and facts.  I am not trying to say your religious ideas are worn or that you own convictions are wrong. I am trying to help you maintain a level of integrity and honesty that is not that hard to find, yet so many believers seem to be ready to not even try for it.

Ask yourself if you are more concerned with being right than with doing right.  Because what I keep seeing from you is that you want to be right first and fore most.  Becuase when you defend a post where you clearly were wrong in what you said, you are not doing what is right. not doing right.  I would think that willingly baring false witness would not be something a good Christian would ever defend doing.

posted by kooka_lives on May 10, 2009 at 7:34 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Wings, you showed right way that you know not what you are talking about
As Ive told you before Kooka, you can believe it or you don't, makes no difference  to me, I know it's true and that's all that matters. Just because YOU dont believe it doesn't make it any less true. And I could gather up all the info for you about it, but what's the point of wasting my time? Would you then suddenly turn from you support of the homosexuals?

posted by onwingsoflove on May 10, 2009 at 7:07 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Wings, you showed right way that you know not what you are talking about
Thanks Red! Kooka IS kooky, he makes NO sense to me, where does he come up with this stuff?

posted by onwingsoflove on May 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Wings, you showed right way that you know not what you are talking about

"That is very far from being true, especially now days as they become more likely to form more lasting, real relationships and are more aware of the dangers.  I've know many homosexuals, and yet I've into known one that has died from an STD."

onwingsoflove- you see what kooka wrote here? This means that homosexuals have evolved into a kinder and gentler form of STD contractees.

Great post, OWOL! You are 100% on target!

posted by RedStatesMan on May 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM | link to this | reply

Wings, you showed right way that you know not what you are talking about
In your first paragraph here you make the purely false claim that all homosexual have STDs.  That is very far from being true, especially now days as they become more likely to form more lasting, real relationships and are more aware of the dangers.  I've know many homosexuals, and yet I've into known one that has died from an STD.

Then I have to question the whole rest of the post.  I seriously doubt such an event has ever happened or ever would.  Do you have any sources at all to back up the story you gave here? You said a reproter was there so if this really happened then there would be news out about it.  You gave no location at all of the church, which is always suspect in such things.  Then of course the hate crime laws would not have applied in this case at all do how new the reclassification is as well as the fact the this group would have been trespassing and provoking a response, let alone the fact that such an action is 100% illegal to begin with, which would actually make them the ones who would be viewed as the guilty party in this case.  All that indicates to me that such story was propaganda, created as a response to the reclassification of hate crime victims and is trying to create a situation that is so outrageous and improbable in order to try and shock people into an anti-homosexual stance when they might not have felt that way otherwise.

When you write such a flawed post it does become very hard to take anything you say seriously.  The whole thing really came off as you just spreading a batch of misinformation and propaganda you were given without learning any of the facts behind it, which is the kind of thing that bothered me and made me feel the need to leave you that first comment that upset you so.

And I still do plan on replying to your e-mail.  I still got a lot going on and that has not been a priority

posted by kooka_lives on May 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM | link to this | reply

Re:
Thanks so much preacher, I knew you'd comment

posted by onwingsoflove on May 10, 2009 at 5:46 AM | link to this | reply

WELL SAID THAT IS SAD THAT PEOPLE TAKE UPON THEMSELVES TO TWIST AND TURN THE WORD OF GOD BUT IN THE END THESE PEOPLE WILL SEE THE TRUTH. HAVE A BLESSED DAY SISTER

posted by preacher43 on May 10, 2009 at 5:10 AM | link to this | reply