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Very true; God helps those that help themselves. The story cited by Sinome is my all time favorite! Nita.
posted by
Nita09
on March 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM
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Vogue
I'm praying never to be in a position to have to fly with an airline that hires pilots who believe in prayer...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM
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I have found that one can pray and work at the same time. One is not necessarily exclusive of the other.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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vogue
Exactly!!!
posted by
TIMMYTALES
on March 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM
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AMEN to that, Vogue....Mal
posted by
gapcohen
on March 25, 2009 at 9:18 AM
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Re: don't know, auslander, if it's a saying among Arabs generally,
but there was a line that stuck with me, from a Sindbad movie of the 60s that this also reminded me of: "
Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel." Which to me, is the same as saying, there are spiritual problems and physical world problems, and the right answers for one are sometimes simply the wrong answers for the other.
posted by
Ciel
on March 25, 2009 at 8:57 AM
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Isn't there an Arab saying that basically says: Believe in Allah, but attach your camel!
posted by
auslander
on March 25, 2009 at 7:58 AM
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Vogue
Nope – God is not going to land the plane. 
posted by
Troosha
on March 25, 2009 at 6:41 AM
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Excellent Vogue... and so true... Brings to mind a story my dad used to tell me. A man, a very religious and saintly man that had dedicated his whole life toG-d, is drawning in the ocean. A ship passes by and sends a small boat to save him... but he waves them away saying... " I have a personal relation with G-d He will save me... ...". A few hours later a motor boat passes by and also tries to help. They get the same response. Even more time passes and a helicopter flutters by and throws a ladder down to him... He also waves it goodbye with unshakable faith that G-d would save him. WEll... he drowns. He gets to heaven and he is pissed at G-d. so when he sees Him he asks Him : "How could You let me drown... after all I did for Your name... all I adored You? " G-d answers: "What do you want from Me? I sent you an Ocean liner, a motor boat and a helicopter and you would not help yourself to them!!!" loll . Be well my friend. xoxo
posted by
Sinome
on March 25, 2009 at 5:02 AM
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Very true Vogue! As my mother used to say:
'Work out your own salvation!'
posted by
elinjo
on March 25, 2009 at 1:12 AM
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