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Re: Re: You are so reasonable and then so unreasonable and hatefilled.
but that does not mean I believe Obama would neccessarily attempt a Marixist revolution in this country. You can hold MArxist views and still only wish to temper those views into an already established system without totally revamping and overthrowing it. I am willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and see if he can fix our problems. All eyes are on him.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 6, 2008 at 9:36 AM
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Re: You are so reasonable and then so unreasonable and hatefilled.
watch the "hatefilled' leap you took there. I'm about as 'well' as a person can be.
What makes a person experts on spotting "hatefilled" people anyway? Yes I am disgusted with the republican party and yes I believe Obama fundamentally holds a Marxist ideolgy. That is not "hateful."
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 6, 2008 at 9:30 AM
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Re: Re: There You Go Again
"I understand what Marxism is and Obama is a Marxist through and through."
So you mean he's going to national private corporations, federalize education, suspend civil liberties, spy on his own people, and authorize torture as an interrogation technique? Oops, too late.
posted by
mousehop
on November 6, 2008 at 9:11 AM
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Unlike some of your counterparts, you sound very reasonable. Your conclusions are suspect, but you often give credit where it is due. As a republican who has been in the high levels of government, I am appalled at some of the diatribe spewed by my party during the campaign. If that continues, neither you nor I, nor anyone, will see a vibrant GOP for a long, long time.
I daresay, Senator McCain is a decent man, a good man. Governor Palin was a mistake; and will ever be a mistake, unless, and until, she moderates her positions, and stays clear of personal attacks and character assassination.
posted by
EX_TURPI
on November 6, 2008 at 9:01 AM
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You are so reasonable and then so unreasonable and hatefilled.
I like the reasonable you, a lot.
Not so in love with the other you, tho'. Get well soon.
posted by
benzinha
on November 5, 2008 at 11:27 PM
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Re: There You Go Again
mousehop, for a goddamned genius you sure are a naive arrogant fool. I understand what Marxism is and Obama is a Marxist through and through. If he will or will be able to implement what he wants remains to be seen, but the doors will be opened regardless.
Now piss off.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM
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There You Go Again
Accusing Obama of Marxism, and everyone who supports him of being a fellow-traveler or too stupid to recognize Marxism when they see it. Yet you have admitted in this forum that you've never read Marx. And believe me, it shows.
Maybe if you read a little more, you might learn a little more, and then you might have more to say.
posted by
mousehop
on November 5, 2008 at 3:23 PM
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As a student of government I feel that Obama was the best choice to serve the needs of the country at this time. In the next four years I hope that he gets the healthcare for all package going at least (Mass transportation should be returned to the private sector. The fare*s only five cents more to pay the state theirs.) As for the conservative Republicans and my problem*s that I like the liberal Democrat girls better they should forget the ultra-conservatives that would have scared the daylights out of voters only 25 years ago. Listen the liberals don't like Bush Sr. as much as they don*t like his son. But his ideology overall notwithstanding that he inherited from Reagan that was neither a political or theological issue before; Clinton who I voted for in 1996 followed his foreign policy. He did man! The local Democrats failed to prove their arguments against the Republican patriarch whose banner their names are placed on the ballot under alone
In this way I split my vote under Senator Lautenberg. I remember that his constituents liked him when he was their senator up there. Now he's a senior member of the big Senate at age 84 McCain notwithstanding. I figured that Obama would need him to get my healthcare through. I really do need it. In 2005 I lost my inheritance to a hospital that didn't have funds itself. And have a serious situation now*
posted by
BC-A
on November 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM
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Amen to that...........
I said from the start that McCain was not my candidate......Obama found the formula that broke the cycle of everyone voting against instead of for......we haven't seen that since the Reagan years......
Now it is our job to cleanse the party of those you mentioned. The pigs who chose to eat at the trough.......and the wishy-washy.....middle of the roaders who slowly infected our party over the past 8 years........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 5, 2008 at 4:46 AM
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