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I would like to respond to all comments, but I just cant! I make an exception in 1AM's case, because she is, after all, the 'instigator'...
posted by
Nautikos
on November 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM
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Re: Pythagoras
1AM, we cannot plausibly say that Pythagoras 'invented' physics, though he was an excellent mathematician. Nobody 'invented' physics! At best we can say that Aristotle was the first to display 'scientific thinking' in his writings...
I know people love the question 'why'! It's one of the first questions kids learn, and they can 'why' you to death, or a least to distraction - but that doesn't make it useful in science. Although, in fact scientists will, of course, also ask it - but they're allowed, because they don't really mean it, since they know better. A scientist's 'why' is not the same why as a layman's why, at least not when he is acting as a scientist...
And of course mathematicians can be passionate - why (a fully intentional and justified 'why', LOL) not? Is there any good reason why they shouldn't be? I didn't say mathematicians were devoid of passion or emotion, I said mathematics is a language free of emotion - and there's a HUGE difference...
posted by
Nautikos
on November 1, 2008 at 1:47 PM
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Pythagoras
First of all, thank you Nautikos for engaging in this subject that i am most fascunated about. Sorry for my late reply though as I have to work even as I am suffereing from flu, so at the end of the day, I just have to sleep and rest.
This will be just a short comment but I promise a rejoinder as soon as I digest it. I have to read this several times. I really want to absorb the insights.
My comment for now is about what you wrote- "our purposes is that mathematics is a language purged from the emotive content which 'normal' language possesses inesacapably. "
Wasn't Physics discovered by Pythogoras while trying to find the harmony for a musical instrument (I think it's a harp)? And I believe that scientsits are the most passionate persons. Imagine the drive to discover how things works? How things began and what causes such things to happen.
And "WHY" though may be perceive as a question which answer may be relative or merely a perception, I believe is a very important scientific question... is it possible that when the apple fell. Newton ask "WHY" it fell? Or "WHY do men or homo sapiens or reptiles or other families have differences and similarities? I believe "WHY" is the foundation of all the "What's and How's" of Science. You said so yourself, the scientist has to continually question his works and findings.
I will write a rejoinder. And will surely read Part II. But I must warn you Nautikos, I will have more questions as I learn more from you. I hope you won't lose your patience. But before I go, let me make this short comment about the fascinating mathemetics. It's infinity is purely fascinating and can lead one to boundless imagination. If you have time, and if you haven't read it yet, I hope you can find some time to read the book " Mr. God, this is Anna by Fynn."
Thanks again Nautikos!!!!! 
posted by
1AMIHAN1
on November 1, 2008 at 9:19 AM
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I have a feeling
your answers to the distilled questions are, no, no, and no!
posted by
KaBooM62
on October 30, 2008 at 8:33 PM
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So, Mr. Spock, as you were saying.....
posted by
gapcohen
on October 30, 2008 at 5:45 PM
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I got the part about math being a language without emotional baggage.
The rest is still kind of a mystery, but -- as the nutty professor on "Laugh In" used to say -- very interesting. Go, Naut!
posted by
Pat_B
on October 29, 2008 at 5:34 AM
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Excellent rebuttal my Bro! I look for the continuation! I love this new approach too! Shelly
posted by
sam444
on October 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM
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Very interesting, so far so good for me... awaiting the next "part" :-)
posted by
Sinome
on October 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM
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very interesting. I`m still listening....
posted by
auslander
on October 28, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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Okay....I held onto it all the way through....but by the time you post the second part, I will have lost it....have to go back and grab it again, plus the new post....and that will be a LOT for someone with ADD to hold onto....you DO realize that don't you.....that is the only problem with these series you know...... I feel like I need a yellow highlighter and a way to make notes on the sides..... Luckily, you're worth it
posted by
Krisles
on October 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM
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It sounds to me like you are saying to me in particular, "Go on about your daily post writing as this is too much for you to grasp." But, I'll show you. I'll read it anyway.
posted by
TAPS.
on October 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM
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I am going to take a seat and listen to this one....
~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM
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