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Hi Naut! Sorry it has taken so long to catch up with you; I have had a time of it with my migraines lately. Doing a bit better though. For me time is an illusion to pacify man. I loved your thoughts. You make more sense to me! Shelly
posted by
sam444
on October 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
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Yes, and YES!
Our thinking on this subject seems fairly similar. As far as I'm concerned time is not really "something" and goes nowhere, backwards or forwards. Perception of time may be a different story, but really there are just events happening and they obviously have to happen in space. These "other" dimensions and universes are pure fantasy. I think there is always something happening and anything that happens does so in dependence on other events - no beginning and no end and an eternal present. If the whole mass of the known universe collapses into a central point it cannot be time going backwards since it will still just be events happening. How to convey this to someone who does not see this for themselves seems very difficult and elicits responses such as that our understanding is limited and that we will "someday" understand it all, which sounds like an excuse not to think about it to me, or maybe such people are living in the "reverse" universe
and I'm an idiot.
posted by
AardigeAfrikaner
on October 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
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posted by
Sinome
on October 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM
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Naut I gunna join the movement backwards so that each day I look in the
mirror Wiley and Queen Kabu are that wee bit younger. Think of the fun we will have as tIeenagers but with all the wisdom life has taught us.
I guess this isn't related to your topic at all but I was hopeless at physics at university. I was able to rote learn just enough to scrape through.
posted by
Kabu
on October 27, 2008 at 12:42 PM
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Nautikos
The faster I tried to move forward in this post the more backward I felt. :)
posted by
Justi
on October 27, 2008 at 11:55 AM
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What?
posted by
Ciel
on October 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM
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I'm with OTA... How about those Phillies??
posted by
Troosha
on October 27, 2008 at 8:13 AM
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A confession...
I must be honest... I almost flunked Physics when I was in highschool... but as I grew older and started asking questions about my life which led me to a bigger question... where did life begin...I ended up with a love affair with Physics... I fell in love to that branch of Science which I can barely understand... to this day, I'm still struggling to understand it...
My interest lies mostly in: if I can somehow understand Physics and its elements of time, space, force, heat, energy, light, matter, gravity and find parallelism in the social dimension, then maybe we can understand how humanity behaves and most of the "why's?" in our life. Physics, because I cannot understand it beacme a code for me to decode. My sojourn started when I noticed that a lot of people are lonely, so I asked myself, -why are people lonely? Is man essentially good or bad?- these questions led me to Physics...
Please allow me then to make some parallelisms regarding your post.... what if being nothing is loving? because only an empty person (one who has no ego) is capable of unconditional love... and the thermal fluctuations are our attempts to love... and only if we achieve that state of emptiness, of nothingness can we truly love and therefore be creative or participate in process of creation... whether it is loving another person, writing poetry or composing a song or fixing a garden or cooking....like expanding or becoming denser but nevertheless creating a singularity as you pointed out...
I will not pretend I understand your post fully well, or if understand it at all... but i feel fascinated... just like when I read the book... Einstein's Dreams...Thanks....
posted by
1AMIHAN1
on October 27, 2008 at 7:05 AM
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There is no future, there is no past. Just the present "is". The rest does not exist yet, or cease to exist. Therefore, there is only now. Much less complicated to understand, no?!
posted by
auslander
on October 27, 2008 at 7:01 AM
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There's something to be said for the eternal now.
I sometimes ponder the notion of time, whether it exists or was devised by mankind as a way to measure the amount of work to be done for an agreed-upon wage. Aboriginal people and those who sense the world seasonally or by light and dark periods rather than minute by minute seem to manage fairly well without the fiction of time, etc...
posted by
Pat_B
on October 27, 2008 at 5:00 AM
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I doubt if Mr. Carroll has ever shot an arrow backwards. May I posit that even though baby universes may be fluctuating out of a starting point in "empty space," whichever way they decide to go, I'm sure that to them they are moving forward in "time" even if it is backward to us.
posted by
TAPS.
on October 27, 2008 at 2:07 AM
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fascinating! to an out an out lay person like me, everything you said made perfect sense. what i'm worried about is, had i read the original, probably even that would have been equally enlightning. authors have to be so careful about what they put out for public consumption. it's great to chance upon something like this every once in a while
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posted by
bythewindowsill
on October 27, 2008 at 12:39 AM
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Oy, but I'm with OTA on this one.
How bout them world series, or some other subject to which I can sort of relate. You're way above my paygrade, Nautikos. But well done anyway, I think!!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on October 26, 2008 at 6:25 PM
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hmm
~ so how about the World Series?
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 26, 2008 at 9:31 AM
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Take two aspirins, downed with a fine Scotch...... Seriously, what a grand idea! I am often so frustrated at the stupidity or inaccuracies in articles I read, and want to "talk" to the author....now, here you've found at least a way to let some of the frustration out....argue with them here!
posted by
Krisles
on October 26, 2008 at 9:28 AM
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Puhhhhh, nautikos, steam is coming out my ears I'm thinking so hard. Where did you say the babies come from?
Sorry, I'm into emoticons today. Don't take me seriously.
posted by
vogue
on October 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM
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