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Sheree_Anne - Re: Belief and Knowledge
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That is the point; no one can possibly know any of these things for sure. They can believe, feel an instinct towards and derive a certain level of surety from these beliefs and instincts but no one can be absolutely certain.
posted by
gomedome
on November 1, 2008 at 9:38 AM
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Belief and Knowledge
No one can possibly KNOW the answers or which "God" is the real one or where they are going wind up after they pass.
After all who's to say that one God is legitimate and which is a farce, and who desides that?
Who desides which truth is the real truth?
Certainly not those who think that they need to kill for their "God", when they preach that God is an all-loving and all-forgiving God.
They think they know God and what God wants.
I don't think a God would want Witches burned at the stake, or Jews Gased to death, or people flying planes into buildings and killing millions in HIS name.
Wars are fought in his name. Does it necessarily mean that is what He wants?
And who's to say it is a HE anyway?
I've stray a little from my point, but what I was trying to say is no-one really KNOWS the answers. All they really can do is believe and that is okay as long that belief is not pushed on to others.
posted by
Sheree_Anne
on October 31, 2008 at 7:27 PM
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hardilaziz - yeah right, sure thing
As far as I'm concerned a paternal conscious entity determining human outcomes is just one micro step beyond dancing around camp fires to appease the gods. But you probably didn't want to hear that. I would also contend that the world is divided to a far greater extent amongst believers who believe differently, than it is between believers and non believers.
posted by
gomedome
on October 27, 2008 at 10:28 AM
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It is does not matter whether one believes in God or not. Nobody can convince you with argument. It is all about belief. That's why this world is divided into believers and non-believers. There are some who switch camps and some who are steadfast in their own beliefs. As far as I am concerned we are all puppets in his hands. He decides our fate.
posted by
hardilaziz
on October 27, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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OTA. - I see the often used suggestion that God is beyond description as a
legitimate basis to suggest that God is mythical.
To say that something is beyond description renders all further descriptions offered of it as speculation. In this case hypothetical would be synonomous with mythical. I've always conceded that there may be something that exists that could be considered as God (ignore chuckleheads that come to this blog insisting that I am an atheist) but so far, I have yet to come across an adequate or believable description. This latter reality being another basis for referring to what people describe as God as being mythical. Then finally we have the fact that most descriptions of God are based on a persona derived from mythology.
I've always believed that it is vitally important for all people to recognize that theirs is just one opinion on these matters. It seems to be the starting point where insufferable religious numbnuts turn into normal people and are able to recognize the rights of all other people.
posted by
gomedome
on October 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM
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muley12 - Re: God is,
No actually; God isn't but you and I are.
posted by
gomedome
on October 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM
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Gomedome
If I say that God is "this" or "that" I limit that which I have already labeled as the Alpha and the Omega. In my humanness and in an attempt to get some clarity I label God as "this" or "that". Like anything else, my thoughts on what something is change over time with maturity. As a child I thought of God as the guy who hid behind the altar at church. That same God has now grown into something I can not name with words for they are pitiful next to the all pervading universe of God. I find your assertion that we can not know what or who God is to be correct, he has been described as "unsearchable".
When you say God is a "myth" or "not real" I see that as your description of God. A photo negative of what I see , but valuable in my quest for understanding.
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 25, 2008 at 6:39 AM
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Re: Sorry... I just read ammon's reply Gomes...
Transcendental_Child - we can only offer them our pity, they've invented an invisible world and now they are communicating with it . . . isn't that special?
posted by
gomedome
on October 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM
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ginnieb - Re: Who could possibly know beyond a doubt...
It is arrogant and that very notion has led to an untold amount of misery in mankind's history.
posted by
gomedome
on October 24, 2008 at 7:49 PM
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Re: I know that God exists because I communicate with it wirelessly,
ammon - your affliction is called schizophrenia, you are showing all of the symptoms. There is no one waiting for me to open dialog with them, or having dialog with you for that matter. If you want to convince yourself that you are not simply carrying on a one way dialog with yourself, you have that right but don't come here and plead with me to join in.
Normally when I run into people that write comments indicating they are suffering from serious mental affliction or imbalance, I refrain from insulting them. When the symptoms appear to be serious, all I can do is suggest they seek help.
posted by
gomedome
on October 24, 2008 at 7:46 PM
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Transcendental…….I was wondering, was that green, projectile vomit?
Just curious.
posted by
ammon
on October 24, 2008 at 4:18 PM
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Sorry... I just read ammon's reply Gomes...
and I threw up on your comment section. I am better now... wait... sorry... I left a noodle.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM
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God is,
and you are. I'm not trying to talk in circles, or be mysterious. Quiet your thoughts, go inward. You can never prove God to anyone but yourself.
posted by
muley12
on October 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM
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Who could possibly know beyond a doubt...
...seems to me that those who profess that their God is the 'real' God are just arrogant. There is no way of knowing and that's all part of the mystery of life.
posted by
ginnieb
on October 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM
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I know that God exists because I communicate with it wirelessly,
during mediation and prayer. You have testified in this forum that you do not mediate and pray, therefore, you have not had the opportunity to participate in this wireless communication with God. Please go into prayer and meditation so that you may experience God for yourself.
Surly, as you have testified here, the fact that people from all over the globe speak of God should be some incentive for you. But people of different cultures have different ways of communicating and experiencing God and so various religions develop and I can understand how these may be hard for you to swallow so don’t swallow them at all…..but find your own way. Begin with an earnest meditative prayer asking God to become more manifest to you. Wireless communication happens everyday all around the globe. Why is it so hard to believe and understand that the human brain is pre-equipped with this simple ability? Try it now! God is waiting for you to open dialog. And don’t get angry with me for asking you to do this simple thing. And please don’t call me any horrible names.
posted by
ammon
on October 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM
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