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I don't want a caste system.  Being of working-class stock, I'd be placed in the wrong group, and I'd never fit in.  Okay, so not much real change there, but it would make a difference for others, and not an improvement.

Red staters might benefit from a look at certain statistics, if they really want what they claim to want.  After all, the divorce rate is lower in blue states than red.  How many other measures show blue states ahead of red in the red-state goals?  Maybe those crazy liberals are on to something.


posted by mousehop on October 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM | link to this | reply

Perhaps you would......
prefer a caste system???   After all,  the red state'rs need someone to take care of them, right? 

These pitiful buffoons  scratch their asses and belch profusely,  have no concept of a proper way to behave.....and to make matters worse they actually believe the religious doctrine they espouse.......

The men need to stick to their couches soaking up what we want them to see on their TVs, the new opiate of the masses.....keep their women pregnant and at home,  but careful we don't want them to breed their way back into a majority again.......



posted by Corbin_Dallas on October 20, 2008 at 11:58 AM | link to this | reply

Re: People tend to congregate in groups
Hmmm?  Almost as appalling as the t-shirts at the Obama rallies calling Sarah Palin a C***???

posted by Corbin_Dallas on October 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM | link to this | reply

I prefer good old common sense over any of it.

posted by RITE2SPIN on October 20, 2008 at 7:52 AM | link to this | reply

posted by Blue_feathers on October 19, 2008 at 7:36 PM | link to this | reply

202937  "An intellectual snob is someone who can listen to the William Tell Overture and not think of The Lone Ranger. "
Dan Rather

posted by TAPS. on October 19, 2008 at 7:19 PM | link to this | reply

It's funny to me -- not funny ha-ha, but funny strange -- that a guy

who hobnobs with the rich and famous, who owns 9 or 13 houses and doesn't have to worry ever where his health care is coming from, dares to call a guy who grew up in poverty an elitist. But that's just me. 

BTW I went to an art exhibit today -- stole about ten minutes from my volunteer schedule and looked at local stuff in the library's big downstairs meeting room. Nearly fell over laughing at a local artist's version of "American Gothic," that famous picture of the farmer standing in front of his barn with a pitchfork and his fairly unhappy looking daughter... Only this was clearly an image of Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin. Now that was funny!

posted by Pat_B on October 19, 2008 at 2:58 PM | link to this | reply

I agree, and wish the class warfare element would disappear entirely.
It's been an annoying tactic throughout the history of politics.  Can we just acknowledge that all candidates with a legitimate shot at being president have a more affluent lifestyle and move on to relevant issues.  I want somebody smarter than I am to be president, not necessarily somebody who would be a better drinking buddy.

Good post.

posted by CunningLinguist on October 19, 2008 at 2:55 PM | link to this | reply

Being among the elite doesn't make one an elitist.

Disregarding all but the elite does. 

Making distinctions between groups based on level of education or basic innate intelligence is not elitist.  But despising someone because they have more or less of them than one's self--is elitist.  Sneering at anyone for any reason isn't very nice.

 

posted by Ciel on October 19, 2008 at 2:52 PM | link to this | reply

People tend to congregate in groups

according to their educational levels and common interests; and that is only natural.  There are often intellectual, social, and even monetary barriers between such groups, to the extent that exclusiveness results and people accuse members of alternative groups of snobbery or analyze them inappropriately.  No better example exists than Obama’s comment about the realm of people who cling to their religion and guns or whatever.  Obama was simply trying to analyze and better understand this particular social group that took the comment as somehow downgrading to them.  It is not unusual for exchanges of viewpoints between social paradigms to result in these types of conflicts.  Truly, the solutions to many problems in the world will be addressed when mankind evolves the talent for extending himself beyond whatever social paradigm he is in and communicating more broadly.

By the way, there was this man at a Palin rally wearing a t-shirt that had Palin holding a gun and under it the words “this is all the foreign policy I need”.  I find this appalling!  Somehow it is offensive for someone to tell you that you cling to guns but it is O.K. for you to pronounce it yourself with this kind of display.  

posted by ammon on October 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM | link to this | reply