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Re: Well you can certainly praise someone for exercising good reason
By Jove! I think ammon has kinda, sorta, maybe gotten it!!!!

posted by Transcendental_Child on October 22, 2008 at 2:16 AM | link to this | reply

Well you can certainly praise someone for exercising good reason
and for being highly accountable.  Right?  I agree with your definition of praise.  It is a manner of affirming that you are in favor of something.  

posted by ammon on October 21, 2008 at 9:23 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Transcendental Child – Do you praise reason and accountability?

No...ammon, I do not praise reason and accountability - because I am not insane.

Look up the word praise... it can be used in such contexts as praising your child or your pet for performing well... or an employee, or in my case a student. It does not mean worship.... nor can you praise concepts - like rational thought or accountability.

posted by Transcendental_Child on October 21, 2008 at 2:19 AM | link to this | reply

Transcendental Child – Do you praise reason and accountability?

posted by ammon on October 20, 2008 at 6:35 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Transcendental_Child - I saw that George Carlin segment before

I agree Gomes... I am quite shocked sometimes while in the normal course of a professional conversation... when a co-worker is posed with some dilemma - to hear, "I will pray about this." or when there is a conflict, "Because of my personal relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ..."

Down the rabbit hole baby.... down the rabbit hole.

posted by Transcendental_Child on October 20, 2008 at 3:01 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Transcendental Child – I disagree –
Hmmmm.... well, ammon, if you think basic unadulterated idolatry is your key to happiness... go for it. As for me and my house... we shall live with reason and accountability.

posted by Transcendental_Child on October 20, 2008 at 2:58 AM | link to this | reply

Transcendental Child – I disagree –

because every human that I’ve ever met holds something to the highest esteem – every human that I’ve ever met has something to praise – often it is a lover, automobile, occupation, or many other material things.  Every human lifts something up to the forefront of their conscious.   Spirituality is about making a reasoned and purposeful selection about what is right and deserving of praise and not bestowing it mistakenly upon the mirages of materialism.  

posted by ammon on October 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply

Transcendental_Child - I saw that George Carlin segment before

When watching it, I found that I wasn't really laughing as much as I was saying to myself "yeah, no kidding". A lot of truth is sometimes spoken in jest.

 

posted by gomedome on October 19, 2008 at 6:05 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Look, so many of you atheists get your panties in a wad

ammon - you have missed the point. We do not believe in worship... which is pagan practice in the first place. It is the dangers of believing - to the point of killing for that belief... therein lies the danger.

 

posted by Transcendental_Child on October 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM | link to this | reply

Look, so many of you atheists get your panties in a wad

over all of the existing theology, dogma, superstition, and ritual that you disagree with.  That is what you really oppose, not God.  Why can’t you simply understand that God is what you worship.  What you worship is that which is foremost in your psyche, and what you hold to be most dear.  When you start to analyze what is most dear to you, you eventually become closely attuned to your conscience.  Praying is about connecting more fully with your conscience, not about asking for things.  

You have to employ your energies here on earth for something.  You can either declare there is no God and allow your energies to be siphoned off by whatever attention grabbing activity happens to be appealing to you at the moment or you can start to think about the things that are worthy of your praise and energy; and so devote yourself.  Just throw away all the theology and start to look for God from this most simple perspective.  

posted by ammon on October 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM | link to this | reply